Who does he owe and how much?
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Who does he owe and how much?
lulz.... LCdaScammer.
he owes me like 10 bux.
He owes me $13
$23 so far.. anyone else?
He owes $5 to onedesperatebet on a stake he decided he didn't like the make up they agreed to after he lost.
I also am not sure if the 70 bucks was settled from here http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f26...ain-23355.html
Long story short, the anti-fraud \ multi-accounts system caught him creating a new account.
When I find someone makes a new account, I usually contact the user and tell them to pick an account and then close the other one. In the case of someone who has a scamming history, I make it VERY VERY clear they will lose all accounts if they don't repay the person they scammed.
In this case, I had (wrongly) presumed LCD had scammed someone for ~$10 (I can't keep up with every ones history). I had been talking to him about repaying his debts, no more trades etc.. Which leads me to the reason for this post, to find out if it was actually more than 1 person.
It sounds like it might be more, a lot more.
So my question to you is, do you want me to continue to try and work with him and have him repay his debts
or
Ban him completely thus the people he scammed will not get anything (He will likely make a new account, and only time will tell if he trips the sensors that caught him the last time).
I say ban the piece of crap, but he doesn't owe me, I am just sick of hearing about all the crap he does pull. He does not care about anyone but himself and just the bad drama around him is too much.
Looks like he owes RoyHobbs, the amount is not mentioned. Cashing on a stake and then logging off is pretty bad.
http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f26...0wn-23154.html
Even if ppl want him to stay to repay, I will bet he scams someone else before he makes good.
I'll leave this to the people that he owes to fully make the decision, but my vote is ban for this main reason: since he has now created multiple accounts on poker skins, he has violated the TOC and anyone who does a p2p trade with him puts themselves in a vulnerable position.
If you want to keep him in hopes he pays his debts his poker screen names should be public so people know the risks trading with him.
Just keep in mind, if you ban him, the chances decrease that
1) People will ever get repaid
2) He could make a new account we don't find (We will try though)
Zab can you please close my other account lol ucfknight. I cant send a contact thing because i have one unanswwered from like a montho ago
new members bubble chat should be limited to mods only
ban him, people were happy that he was gone, moreso than keeping him round to scam again, its been much quieter since the bans have been handed out and as a result scams have been reduced, why stop now when what you are doing is clearly working
He wasn't ever gone.. He's been building up his reputation on a new account, which we have been monitoring, which is what the Mods brought to my attention today and already begun trading (legit trades so far).
I made it clear he needed to repay his debts, but sounds like he hasn't.
Because I know where he's at, I can monitor it..
i said ban him, there is no point of letting him back in. Let's say he paid back his debts. He will scams again and will owned to other people or new member that doesnt know his hsitory.
That is his small-time low-life MO. Make a bunch of positive moves, then for some reason has to go back to degen mode, be it small bills, can not sustain his lifestyle, the robberies have subsided, whatever it is. He also has a large number of accounts they keep closing at 2+2.
As far as banning or keeping a guy who owes money. The best thing to do is open a 'banned-member owes' thread, so that anyone who searches the various names on google that he is using will find he is a scammer, including the new poker site names he just made. If the person involved has any positive morals, they will pay what they owe no matter banned or not. If they want their name cleared from the 'banned-member owes' thread, they will pay back. This is my experience from various poker sites and 2+2.
iirc This guy LCD currently stills owes money at 2+2 and PartTimePoker, kick him off and let him start new accounts that can get banned/closed/money-kept for MAing at poker sites.
The truth is, people here should start to be very wary of new players that come here with clean Carbon poker accounts which can be easily traced via OPR or Sharkscope.
Only owes me in loan shark and I am already using insurance, so not much left - about 200 points I guess -.
But in the end he owes these points to PO, because I had to use the loan shark insurance.
Ive staked both dpad and LC for small amounts on here. Now im under the impression that everyone here is a scammer.
i though that u can't do p2p transfers on carbon. anyhow it's not much but he owes 2 bucks for a small loan i did month ago or so. I had done a few small trades and a stake in a KO tourney. Those few trades he did send what he was supposed to back on the stake and did do a point trade with him with no problems. I almost did a front for a day for 20 on gdmp, but decided to look his name up and found out his other name was lcd boss. I alerted pooffy and didn't end up doing the big trade. I say ban him i guess, but that's cuz it's only two bucks for me. If it was more i might vote other way round. What about d-pad. has he tried to make another account since his ban? He still owes me 5
well i think he should be banned no question. I look at it this way he told zab that he wanted to repay his debts so he made a new account, but if it is really his intent to pay back the people he owes, why keep his identity a secret? I mean he didn't come and say hey guys i know i messed up but i got a new username now and im going to make it right with everyone. no he came back with a new username and just jumped into the mix. I know what his new name is and i did a $1 trade with him just to see if he would scam for such a low amount, he didnt THIS TIME, but really a scammers gonna scam.
Ok, no point of keeping identity a secret, especially if im going to be paying back. Yes I'm LCDaBoss, yes Ive been on here as a "new member", Yes zab knew, I admitted to him and he would rather know who I am and what I'm doing instead of me lurking around on an account and nobody knows who I am.
I have no intentions on scamming, I don't need a stake unless someone wants to stake me, I have no problem with a flag on my background check, I have no problem with nobody liking me.
The last incident that got me banned over the paypal was paid back, wherever that guy took off to if he lurks hopefully he can testify for that. Another known incident with pokeyourface over $25 was paid back. Onedesperate I'm willing to give that $5 back like pooffy bought up, newdaddy say $2, I'm sure thats possible no need to argue that and will pay that also.
Pray and dk, not saying you a lie or anything like that, please provide a link maybe to what I owe you on and you are on that list too, I have done trades here since coming back on this account, even though everything went smooth zab asked me to not do any more trades until people are paid back.
The ip background check system is flawed and can be passed by I believe admins can find it but it takes alot more than usual, I will just be able to make another account if he bans this one, I'm looking to be able to be a member here, a positive one like the first what 8 months or so before making all these stupid mistakes. I just want to be able to participate in the games, earn points (make site money), and stay to myself as much as possible. Will I be looking to trade? Sure but will never ask anyone to send first and will send first in all my transaction (of course this is after I pay debts).
So zab you can do what they want and ban me, I will change my ip again and will be back playing the games, really dont care about stakes or anything, everyone can know who I am, any mod catch me doing a trade and not sending first should ban me.
I think its much better for you guys to know who I am here and just let me go on as long as I'm not causing trouble, give it a try, if not, well I tried.
Think zab would have last word in the end so its all on him. He has alot of new things set up to prevent any trouble, warn others, and keep people in line, any begging done is to be reported and for me to be banned, people can do background check red flag, hell post in any thread I have if you want and say *caution* I don't care because I deserve that, just let me continue to be as much of a normal member as possible without having to lie.
Dude you effing did a trade with someone you owe, how much lower can the bar go?
Actually honestly didnt know I owed him, thats why I also asked him for a link or something to it in my post and will be willing to pay him also, I did a legit trade with him, like I said I'm not here for the bullshit anymore no matter who believes it or not.
the last part of the post is what worrys me the most tbf
"ill just make a new account" how is that in any way shape or form going to make u a better member or increase trust, no one here likes you, no one here wants to trade with you...why dont u just go away :|
No one here has to trade with me azreal, but im sure people wont mind as long as I send first and pay my debts first, I could just go away you right, but ummm pokerowned provides a site that I like, i like the games, and the promotions. Actually liked the community but i fucked that up myself.
And that last part was to be truthful to open people eyes, anyone with a little bit of smarts can make a new account un noticed, so be on the lookout and thats not just saying be on the lookout from me, im sure its others working their way back in and you guys dont know, how about all these accounts that came in october-november that are really active getting hundreds of post and doing all kind of things on the site, good chance those newer "good" mmebers are just old people not wanted.
ure just scum really aint ya
best sollution, restrict his market access completely
make him agree to pay his debt off with points
when hes ready to pay let zab manually take the points out of his account
I heard some very bad things about this guy! Are all the stories true?
yikes, admin knows about this... yikes
Well your level of contrition is a welcome change...
So no, you shouldn't be able to be a regular member - here's why:
1. You had multiple chances (5? 10?) and fucked them all up, and no doubt you will do it again. The reason all of these security measures are in place is because of people like you that care nothing at all except for stealing money from people. You've shown nothing that says you won't steal money from people the first chance you get, because that's your MO
2. Since you've violated the terms of the Black Chip TOC by creating a new account, you put anyone that does business with you in jeopardy since you are a criminal and people will be tied to you. Again, I know you really don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, but the community matters a lot more than you. (See I bolded this because this is the part that matters to everyone the most)
3. Being a member of this site and getting to build a bankroll is a privilege, not a right. You don't seem to get that - your flippant attitude is a slap in the face to Zab.
Now speaking of Zab, you mentioned that it's really up to him with the final word - well the whole point of this thread was to out you to see if you actually had a good attitude toward and were willing to pay up. Sadly, but unsurprisingly, you failed this test.