well we will see if he wants me gone or for me to stay and pay off my debts.
Until then, find you something else to do other than argue with me.
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well we will see if he wants me gone or for me to stay and pay off my debts.
Until then, find you something else to do other than argue with me.
this isnt an argument, an argument would signify you have sufficiant importance/sway/power of persuasion to come up with an equal side, you dont you have no rights being that you are scumQuote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
if its get for the hefe's pocket, its good for the gander
Have me stay and everyone knows who I am, debts get repaid, continue to be a member with restrictions from marketplace.
OR
(not saying this would happen but..) Ban me, have me bypass the system again, oo and dont create a pocketfive account for stalkers like popeye to notice, and nobody knows for sure if the "new" member is me or not, the only for sure thing would be ban anyone from my area (the only thing they would be able to tell, the area my ip is coming from), which would be southern IL / St. Louis. And that would just be bad for business, banning new members because they are from same area? That would be crazy and wrong. Because my ip and phone number would not trace back to me. Just like it didn't this time right? But why go through all that?
You tell me which one looks like the better choice? I think I should be allowed to do the right thing for once.
in short your a cunt and showing just why you should be banned, if you were truly here to make good you wouldnt threaten us with more accounts and possible scamming O.o personally id rather take my chances, they tracked whorebot down, he knows if he does anything again there will be legal action...so finding a dipshit like you shouldnt be 2 hardQuote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
It wont be hard, ill tell him where i am lol, I'm not saying ill scam, never said anything about scamming, i wont scam even if I went on as a new member and nobody knew who I was, i just want to do whats right and play. I'm just saying from you guys point of view you should rather know I'm me. That would be the better decision for you guys. I'm saying thats what could happen, but thats not what I want to do. I would rather not hide.
Its pretty clear cut, he earns points, generates revenue, pays back the owed parties. The owed parties feel satisfied they were reimbursed, stay on PO, continue to generate revenue for the business. Its pretty black and white. i mean, i saw speedy in chat 20 minutes ago unbanned :confused::confused:
bullshit dude, no fucker here believes a single fucking word u sayQuote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
ok well im done talking, I have said what I had to say, you can call it bullshit all you want. Dont put added shit in my words though because I never once threaten in anyway to come back under a new name and scam. Just come back and play.Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
Here is a great idea Zab,
Tell him that if he pays back all his debts in a timely manner (1month) he can come back on to the site, then Bamm!!! BAN HIS ASS ANYWAYS. He wasn't honest and forthright with the people he was doing business with, why do you have to be honest and forthright with him. At some point your gonna have to put your foot down and implement a ZERO TOLLERANCE policy for scamming otherwise Poker Owned is gonna be plagued with this childishness.
At some point your gonna have to put your foot down.
lol course thats not what u was saying dipshit just evaporate alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
Why do that if he knows I can by pass the system, that's one thing you guys are not getting, they never knew for sure it was me, no matter what they say. No matter what anyone thought, no matter what city my profile said I was from, no matter how new my poker account was, they never knew 100% it was me until in pm I said it myself it was me. Mods have even admitted this in chat. For example Tecate and Prawney both said they couldnt say or do anything because they wasnt sure it was me. So why not let me be here as ME, paying my debt back, on a short leash.Quote:
Originally Posted by MRINSIDIOUS
Tecate and Prawney don't have a background in computer programming and security.Quote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
I do.
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Originally Posted by azreal1
I KNOW that is not what I was saying, and I'll evaporate when you die and go to hell
This thread has been up for the full day - the original post by zab was to ask the community how they felt.
Everyone stated their point, lets leave it to zab now - i think we're kinda going in circles with this.
Speedy must of had an unseen unanimous decision to be unbanned. LOL just make the site money, pay the people back so they continue to do so too. You get the PO Get Out of Jail Free card
The sad part of this is he scams so much that he dont even know who he own to and dont give a fuck about others and just think of himself. Its pathetic after he got caught with the new account then suddenly want to paid back debts. If you were a man of your word you should have right away come out and said who you are and post a thread you will paid back all the debts not after you got caught then said it.
Zab runs more sites than just this one and pretty busy with all of them so doesn't see all of the threads we have seen on the crap you have been pulling with scamming members, you sure caught his attention when you got carried away and decided the members weren't enough you wanted to add the site to your list. He has since been filled in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
Im not gonna comment on LCDaboss personally, but here we have an ENTIRE thread where people are essentially saying ban scammers on the spot.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE LITTLE "PAYBACK" THEY might GET.
Other poker sites have PERFECTED a marketplace environment, which includes ACTIVELY seeking scammers, and banning them on the spot
This is what the community wants, but i doubt the establishment listens
This shit is getting pretty old, what the hell do you think he is trying to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by PokeYourFace
http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f11...ade-24414.html
He is still trying to work with scammers, rather than snap ban them.
THE PEOPLE have spoken.
The few opinions of people at the top, DO NOT MATTER,
THE PEOPLE is what matters
PO is like a little United States, the Congress of PO is killing us
You baffle me with your words and convoluted "logic".Quote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
I was all with the concept of letting you stay and make good.... but the mere FACT that you would even consider the possibility of creating a new account for a site you know you are not welcome on indicates that you should not and CAN NOT be trusted. You try to frame this ploy as a "public service, just letting us know that it could happen" sort of dodge, but that is just fancy foot work!
No, I have read ZAB's post, read all of your words, read others arguments for/against and your rebuttals to those whom spoke against you. I find your position in this thread to be like quicksand, reasonably firm at face value, but definitely not safe treading .
I have no dog in this hunt in terms of your history, but as a member of this site it's image matters a great deal to me. Your past behaviour tarnishes that image.
I vote for BAN. I'll gladly offer to pay part of your debt once you are gone.
Guess people hate the truth, this is the truth, if banned the truth is I most likely will have a new account to still play on, not to scam or anything, but I would rather do things the right way. Guess I shouldnt be honest and just say what you guys want to hear? Also my response and the way I response also has to do with the person I'm responding to, I DO NOT LIKE AZREAL OR POPEYE. Just because I want to do whats right does not mean that has to change, so those two smart asses will get a smart ass reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
Pretty sure I mentioned that already a couple timesQuote:
Originally Posted by PokeYourFace
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Originally Posted by PokeYourFace
First off, give me a break Poke.. All you do is stir the pot with the "Ban scammers on the spot" "No one listens." How many upgrades have I done to prevent scamming? How many? HOW MANY? How much money have I spent on that?
Did you even take time to read the enormous upgrade I have spec'd out for the outside the marketplace scams? So to put it blunt, enough with that crap, I am tired of it.
YOU might not care that people get paid back, but I do.
Your other comment about other poker sites have perfected the marketplace.. There is NO OTHER site out there like this ANYWHERE.
I will second that, I am active on 2+2 even with popeye efforts to have me banned everywhere, with a good history and no I wont say my name there for obvious reasons, but just saying nobody is perfect even the highly regarded 2+2 poke loves. And please note I said a good history im not there to scam anyone either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zab
So, now we're onto the inherent question.
Do we ban his new account or don't we? If we ban his new account (And any future accounts), then yes, that account is toast.
What's the risk here? He makes new accounts (That we can't find) and people don't get paid back.
If we allow him to switch back to his LCD account, without marketplace etc.. We know where he's at, he's at least saying he's going to repay people he owes and so on.
So, I'll leave it to you. It's very easy to say "Just ban him" when 10 minutes later he'll have a new account.
I kno my input is shit now, due to what I did jus not to long ago!! But I will say this, since ive came out and said I wanted to repay my debts I had told the ppl it would take me till at least after christmas, but I have instead payed almost $150 that I had owed, Im human and made a mistake, I kno LCD has much much much more shit than I have ever done on here!! But, personally I dont see anything wrong wit banning all his other accounts make him get on the LCD name so everybody knows who their dealing with and if ppl choose 2 still deal with him then so be it, thats their risk, as same as for me I guess you could say!! And dont allow him to have access to all the other features until debt it paid, I think there shouldnt be nothing wrong wit that, and I think Zab is doing a great job and doing what he can as well, give the man a chance he is trying, like pooffy as stated as before he does have other sites he has to attend to as well!! I kno my input means shit to some of you guys, but thats fine!!
Id rather just to catch him every time he creates a new PO account (and Merge and BCP along with it, since we know all his names). I'm also happy reporting his screen names to the respective poker clients. We shouldn't associated with criminals here, and there is 0% chance he pays everyone back (his history proves that)
Get rid of him once and for all.
0% chance? wow my history actually would prove I will pay back, how about we ask poke? Paid him back and that one pay back was worth the same as these three who say I owe them money. So how is it 0% chance I pay back? And report the poker accounts if you want, wont solve anything at all.
Jaytodd can get a chance to pay back $150 but I can't pay back $25? ... Speedy still running around I see, sure there is others. Im not justifying anything I did at all, I was wrong, but seriously some of you just have personal grudges.
Zab asked my opinion, I gave it. Go create new accounts scammer, this one will be banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
Ok well that's your opinion.
It's not just your long history of fucking people over - it's the lack of contrition and the arrogance that you'll just go around the system if you dont get your way. And JayTodd actually came out and wrote something to make this right - he didn't hide behind a new name like some coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by BearsFB
Kumbayah my lord, kumbayah?
Like I said people hate the truth, I couldnt let it be known because I was banned on the spot on any account associated with me, pooffy straight up told me no she wouldnt let me get a chance or post anything asking the community nothing and this was before this account. Ban jaytodd or speedy or anyone else and im sure they would be back on a new account, some of you just hate the fact I'm able to speak the the truth and dont always say what you want to hear.
irony is strong ITT can we ban him now please , and jaytodd and speedy and any fucker else that wishes to scam people
