STAKED in $3.30 $800 GTD

[tommy62278]

you can win 8k for 3k i see your odds kinda but thats still 2.3/1 not too great

[JoeSchmo]

hmm i staked you and watched you for a reason. you got game but only when youve built a stack. 1st hand AQ you got all your chips in with was a bad call. you did not have odds as you say. you have 750 in pot. 420 chips called otherwise. then the all ins shove add 750 so 1920 in pot n 3k more to call which means 5k in pot. cost you 3k to call. 1.5/1 at best which is not good odds. very easy fold. then you rebuild and shove 2500 with qj UTG wth!!!!! watching your play i went to 2 cash tables and tilted off 5$ so in total this whole idea cost me almost 9$ OUCH. not a GG sir

12 BBs UTG bout to go thru the blinds, in a turbo i really dont see much more option here. Blinds were about to go up also so that leaves me w/8 or so after i go thru the blinds unless i pick up a monster to reship in one of em. And w/all the limping at that table its going to be hard to find an unopened pot to ship in.

you can win 8k for 3k i see your odds kinda but thats still 2.3/1 not too great

When i was being coached/staked was always taught that al lu need is 2:1 to make this call n it was pretty close to that. Like i said, i can probly lay it down but w/4 limpers in the hand i gotta 6x at the minimum.

Im not saying ur wrong or anything, just giving u my reasonings behind the plays. Thanx for the input.

[Rcktwrangler]

12 BBs UTG bout to go thru the blinds, in a turbo i really dont see much more option here. Blinds were about to go up also so that leaves me w/8 or so after i go thru the blinds unless i pick up a monster to reship in one of em. And w/all the limping at that table its going to be hard to find an unopened pot to ship in.


When i was being coached/staked was always taught that al lu need is 2:1 to make this call n it was pretty close to that. Like i said, i can probly lay it down but w/4 limpers in the hand i gotta 6x at the minimum.

Im not saying ur wrong or anything, just giving u my reasonings behind the plays. Thanx for the input.

There was 2 limpers in the hand, and I completely 100% disagree with having to raise 6x at the minimum, or even the maximum.

[JoeSchmo]

hmm i staked you and watched you for a reason. you got game but only when youve built a stack. 1st hand AQ you got all your chips in with was a bad call. you did not have odds as you say. you have 750 in pot. 420 chips called otherwise. then the all ins shove add 750 so 1920 in pot n 3k more to call which means 5k in pot. cost you 3k to call. 1.5/1 at best which is not good odds. very easy fold. then you rebuild and shove 2500 with qj UTG wth!!!!! watching your play i went to 2 cash tables and tilted off 5$ so in total this whole idea cost me almost 9$ OUCH. not a GG sir

There was 2 limpers in the hand, and I completely 100% disagree with having to raise 6x at the minimum, or even the maximum.

Yeah, 2 limpers, not sure where i got 4, just rememberin wrong i guess. but still , thatsa 5x(i potted cuz ppl dont like to fold).
N it was 13BBs, but pretty much 10 effective seeing as if i fold blinds go up to 250, then im in the blinds n down to 8.5 or so. Still dont think i can fold QJ UTG.

Thanx for takin a look n addin some insight, i do appreciate it.

[tommy62278]

Yeah, 2 limpers, not sure where i got 4, just rememberin wrong i guess. but still , thatsa 5x(i potted cuz ppl dont like to fold).
N it was 13BBs, but pretty much 10 effective seeing as if i fold blinds go up to 250, then im in the blinds n down to 8.5 or so. Still dont think i can fold QJ UTG.

Thanx for takin a look n addin some insight, i do appreciate it.

qj UTG is the easiest fold in the world. you have 6ppl behind you and the blinds. only ppl calling are the ones who have you beat

[JoeSchmo]

qj UTG is the easiest fold in the world. you have 6ppl behind you and the blinds. only ppl calling are the ones who have you beat

I think were gonna hafta agree to disagree on this one. QJ is on any shove chart ive ever looked at w/this stack size.

So outta curiosity, what is ur shove range here?