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    $200 a day? I would say have nothing less than 20k if you are playing live cash games. If you are looking for a set daily return I would also suggest sticking to HU cash games. It is your best chance at reaching a daily average at the end of the week! Unless you are an excellent Sit and go or small field tournament player.

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    I have no idea but I just wanted to wish you good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rghy2 View Post
    If you're really interested in going pro, you need to be thinking about moving down to Mexico. There just isn't enough money to be be made off of us sites. Cost of living can be much cheaper, and then you have access to much MUCH better options to play on. And I don't even necessarily mean PS either.
    Damn straight - the US is losing some wealthy taxable citizens over this! I used to love tooling on Russians and Eastern Europeans late night on the big international sites.

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    Beautiful cans if thats you, if you cant make 200 of 40-60 a day dont play

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    Just curious what kind of bankroll in your opinion you would need to make 200$ a day easily on average...

    The games you play are really key here...tourney, NLHE ring, limit, full or short...

    BR requirements can go waayyyy up in scenarios. Plus, it helps to know how good you are at multi tabling. This reduces variance per hour if you can multitask

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    coming from someone who used to play this game for a living. It all depends on what kind of lifestyle you wanna live. You can grind 180s all day long and get by on a roll of $2000. But if you want to make any sort of decent living playing cash or mtts, you need in the 15-$20k range.

    If i were just starting out, what I personally would do is save up $1,000 and put it online. Continue working my job to pay my bills and not touch my money online, within 1 year I would most likely have over $10,000 and be able to go pro doing that. But everyone has different skillsets and different issues and priorities.

    It all depends on if you are going to play live or online. If online, it also depends on what country you live in.

    your best bet to make $200 on average a day is probably mass multitabling sngs playing everything from a certain buyin all the way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharking View Post
    IMO live poker is impossible to be pro without taking on large amounts of risk. Especially for MTTs. You have to be backed or sell action for markup. Just so fucking hard to beat the absurd rake.

    Online is impossible to be pro now in the USA. Think about it. A handful of USA players make 50k+ a year and its mostly luck based. You could be a professional lottery player and have a much better outlook than that

    If online does come back for USA I fear they will tax it at a % that makes the game impossible to beat.

    Remember your number #1 opponent at every single table is the house. They get guaranteed 2nd-3rd place money in every tourney and in some gross ones they get 1st place cash. Its gross.

    Rake of 9% is tough to beat online because u cant find big enough edges anymore. Not enough donks going ALL IN with inferior aces etc. AQo used to be a winning hand, now its -EV because not enough people stacking off with AJ A10 or worse.

    Rake of 20% live is just LOL. ya fields are much worse so it evens a little but still impossible to beat.

    You missed the boat for professional poker. If you were nasty in 2005-2008 there was a lot of money to be made.

    Now everyone caught up the the curve, edges are getting smaller and the casino is becoming one of the only winners. Its pretty hard just to break even online. something like 90% of winners are barely over break even or only winning because of rake back. Rake is soooooo fucking hard to beat. They are smart they picked a great number to charge where the most elite could scrape by a small win %, a lot would be slightly below break even, and then some whales/degens would cover the rest. Think about how much casinos and online sites make. Add the rake they take for a single day.. Its sickening. We need lower rake for poker to be beatable again

    you hit the nail on the head. I started playing for a living in 2007, i was better in 2008 than in 07, better in 09 than in 08 and better in 2010 than in 09. and 2010 was my worst year overall. games got alot tougher

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