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personally i think any extra software is cheating you cant use that crap at the casino. i know allot of people dis agree but that is my opinion if you have an extra advantage noone else has or few have you are still cheating in my book. and i would love to play any of you that use them on here at a REAL table where you cant use them lol
i have to agree
what do you mean by using extra programs and how they are cheating?
I am thinkin hud, but it is not cheating. It is way easier to keep track of things live, and you are not multi tabling live, unless if you are really good, I have only done that once before.
I am going to have to agree. Just play the game it was meant to be played.
I play so dumb,,,the program would say this must be several players in a State Hospital !!!!
are u talking bout holdemmanager and other programs that help u see statistics, etc?? tho?
Shoot, I hope people keep using them, only helps me our in the long run.
great next peeps are going to want to ban my note book full of notes on you all ;)
Those programs are lame anyway, if you need them you're in over your head and shouldn't be playing.
i agree with steph nicely said
People that disagree are obviously using one.
i dont use them but i thought about it..i dont see why its cheating unless you can see the players hold cards, or you colluding with anohter player or skyping with a player telling them what you have.just my opnion..
i THINK IF U NEED A PROGRAM U HAVE NO SKILLS AND NEED TO NOT EVEN PLAY POKER!
If the site says in their TOS you can't use them (HUDs) then you are cheating ... if its allowed, its not cheating .... simple as that.
Whether you choose to use the tool or not is a personal decision.
i dont think a database to help keep statistics is cheating, but any program that tells you your next hand and stuff like that is def. cheating.
It is cheating and it was used to cheat isildur out of millions. too bad he had to give him his money back huh... people defending it are obviously using them. so sad really!!They arent that accurate anyways. I seen one once and at 2 different sites it said i was basically 2 different players at one i was rock solid and at another it said i was a timid mouse LMFAo thats hilarious!!! I can see being able to use notes even tho u cant use these at a casino but with online there are so many more then at most live events. Live you keep mental notes and ur at the same table with same people for a while. Huds and such have NO BUSINESS in the online poker world..
If it is allowed by the sites, then it is not cheating imo
just play poker
notes are ok
never used any programs to technical anyway
^^^ this basicallyQuote:
Originally Posted by bmeelneg
and no i dont use them id find it off putting tbh i keep all the notes i "make" in my head afterall having a good memory is part and parcel of playing poker but yeh back on topic IF its in the TOS that its not allowed then of course its cheating otherwise its fair game i guess
Drywallman I can see your notebook now. Entry #1- Drywallman = Big Fuking Donk.
DA BEARS!
i think the programs may give you statistics but instinct is your best bet
jesus freaking christ what the heck is poker coming to
there's no cheat
i use my donk detector when i play in these po games and carbon..it beeps when it see's a donk play, it can also smell a donk..is that cheating i am sorry guys...
Do the donks smell like ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by gametime74
I hope people keep using them
I love people using shit to make them think they are better than they are. They have a read on you, all you do to beat their programs, switch it up. simple, isn't it. Notes are great and i will always use them, but huds and the like. Tried it once, just no good. Great information mind you, but just think of myself as a player that does not need outside artificial help. But, good luck to the rest of you that use them, maybe you will learn to think on your own one day too...doubtful i know
if u have ever used one i guarantee u would love it
Yeah i agree with this ;)
That detector of yours must go off during every hand of a PO freeroll.Quote:
Originally Posted by gametime74
I dont know I think online play their are so many worse things than using programs that I would worry about