jimmy did u see my post bout this?? a little above urs here,, if tht helps,,, i reg for amazon. com,, and looked a t a lot of these,, but was a LOT OF work,a nd a lotts time,, too much for me,,, to get 3 cents,, or a nickel.. seemed really crazy,, let me know if u find any easy ones there tho,, i didnt,,, ty