alright i apreeciate every1s opinion and i contacted Brian1150 on the chat box in this forum and he swear he didnt now about it and seemed sincere about paying me back the 119 wich would be great and yes this was why i tryd the marketplace for a lesson and atm is was a cheap lesson hey maybe it will be a good free lesson once i get my points back and plus an admin eves dropped on mine and brian1150 conversation and nows he owes me .....just having fun with this forum and hope to play in many free rolls cuz the value in them are probably the best on the net...now what i mean...