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  1. #1
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    Ignoring all the trash you said before....

    I have never said otherwise. If he chooses to ban Brazil as a Country from the Poker Stars freerolls, there is NOTHING you can do about it. Were the site NOT PRIVATE maybe you could.
    And at what moment I said that if he ban Brazil from PokerOwned I would do something? Read my first post in this thread, I've just said that is not to fair to ban the whole country only because of 1 or 2. And then you started with a stupid justification: "This is Zab's private site he does what he wants to".

    Honestly Nelson, if I didn't saw your PO Profile, reading all your arguments about Zab in this FORUM, I would guess that you were his girlfriend or his wife...

    But anyway I hope you can be happy if I say that you are right and I'm wrong... The sadly part is that in real life things don't work like as in the internet.

    But if this is the final decision and Brazil will be out, all I can do is to wish luck for you and say thank everybody for the good freerolls that I played with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym4ker View Post
    Ignoring all the trash you said before....



    And at what moment I said that if he ban Brazil from PokerOwned I would do something? Read my first post in this thread, I've just said that is not to fair to ban the whole country only because of 1 or 2. And then you started with a stupid justification: "This is Zab's private site he does what he wants to".

    Honestly Nelson, if I didn't saw your PO Profile, reading all your arguments about Zab in this FORUM, I would guess that you were his girlfriend or his wife...

    But anyway I hope you can be happy if I say that you are right and I'm wrong... The sadly part is that in real life things don't work like as in the internet.

    But if this is the final decision and Brazil will be out, all I can do is to wish luck for you and say thank everybody for the good freerolls that I played with you!
    Is that the best you can do? Zab's girlfriend jokes? lol

    It's obviously much easier to "ignore all the trash" (also know as a reasoned and sound argument that challanges YOU on a level I guess you are not capable of measuring up to in ANY language), then to actualy try and defend your position with logic and fact. Fine by me. I asked you question after question, you answered not ONE of them. I tried to engage you in a conversation and you deflected rather then provide alternatives. Now you resort to insults and a "pity me, I won't play here anymore" attitude.

    I'll ask you again.... you don't like the solution that ZAB has provided? Whats yours then? In DETAIL, what do you suggest he do?

    Yes, real life IS difficult when someone stands in front of you and tells you you are wrong..... but only if you are unwilling to prove yourself correct as seems to be your problem. Fling the insults all you want, if you can't defend your position in an argument, your insults fall on deaf ears.


    Trust me when I say this, the 4 or 5 people on Poker Owned who choose not to participate here because they can't play on the Poker Stars freerolls won't be missed. The aggervation your countrymen cause ZAB and the outright THEFT of money FROM ZAB when they place ITM in those freerolls that they did not EARN the right to play in...... it more then outweighs ANY amount you 4 or 5 poor souls spend here. IN FACT it is BECAUSE of password leakers from Countries like Brazil, Portugal, Romania, etc etc... that a number of players on this site who would otherwise spend points to enter those freerolls CHOOSE NOT to.

    So you see? In reality it IS GOOD BUSINESS to ban those aforementioned countries from the Poker Stars freerolls. Of course, YOU are welcome to earn points and enter either the Carbon or Juicy Freerolls if you want to. My guess..... you won't.

    I have to wonder.... just how many times you have actually paid for the Poker Stars password anyway?
    Last edited by TONelson; 02-25-2013 at 06:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TONelson View Post
    Is that the best you can do? Zab's girlfriend jokes? lol
    That was not a joke, I'm serious. It's really impressive the way you talk about him, you want to take decisions by him.

    Quote Originally Posted by TONelson View Post
    The aggervation your countrymen cause ZAB and the outright THEFT of money FROM ZAB when they place ITM in those freerolls that they did not EARN the right to play in...... it more then outweighs ANY amount you 4 or 5 poor souls spend here. IN FACT it is BECAUSE of password leakers from Countries like Brazil, Portugal, Romania, etc etc...
    It's curious the way you want to solve things punishing a whole nation... Saying that portugueses are cheaters.... Use Google translate and read this thread Pokerstars Eh Foda!!! | PokerStars | F?rum PT PokerStrategy.com ... 2 canadians were cheating at PokerStars and they were literally stealing portuguese players. The PS support banned the 2 canadians boys... Imagine if they had banned all canadian players? Who would imagine that canadians would do that? Just the people who speak english...Hard to believe, but they stole the guy...

    Quote Originally Posted by TONelson View Post
    I have to wonder.... just how many times you have actually paid for the Poker Stars password anyway?
    See how ignorant and arrogant you are. check my history and see all the PokerOwned freerolls I have played and compare the data, see if I played on a freeroll that I didn't have paid for the password. Ask Zab to do this, i think you don't have enough privilege to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TONelson View Post
    I'll ask you again.... you don't like the solution that ZAB has provided? Whats yours then? In DETAIL, what do you suggest he do?
    There is a topic that a lot of people was discussing about this, a lot of suggestions were made including mine. http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f11...lls-16462.html

    Quote Originally Posted by TONelson View Post
    YOU are welcome to earn points and enter either the Carbon or Juicy Freerolls if you want to. My guess..... you won't.
    And you have guessed right because I only play at PokerStars.
    Last edited by moneym4ker; 11-25-2013 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym4ker View Post
    That was not a joke, I'm serious. It's really impressive the way you talk about him, you want to take decisions by him.



    It's curious the way you want to solve things punishing a whole nation... Saying that portugueses are cheaters.... Use Google translate and read this thread Pokerstars Eh Foda!!! | PokerStars | F?rum PT PokerStrategy.com ... 2 canadians were cheating at PokerStars and they were literally stealing portuguese players. The PS support banned the 2 canadians boys... Imagine if they had banned all canadian players? Who would imagine that canadians would do that? Just the people who speak english...Hard to believe, but they stole the guy...



    See how ignorant and arrogant you are. My nick at pokerstars is andrelgcp, check my history and see all the PokerOwned freerolls I have played and compare the data, see if I played on a freeroll that I didn't have payed for the password. Ask Zab to do this, i think you don't have enough privilege to do it.


    There is a topic that a lot of people was discussing about this, a lot of suggestions were made including mine. http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f11...lls-16462.html


    And you have guessed right because I only play at PokerStars.
    You really are fishing aren't you?

    I'm not making decisions for ZAB nor have I suggested what ZAB should do. I have told you what ZAB has said he is GOING to do. Why is this so har for you to grasp. Don't blame any language barrier for it either as you seem reasonbly well versed in English.

    Regarding Cheating: Poker Stars Policy is very clear in this regard in that they claim they NEVER publish the results of their internal investigations. This not withstanding, the fact of the matter is that Poker Stars Security team and budget is exponentialy larger then ZABS. Also, it is much easier for them to ban individuals on thier own software by IP when said individuals are caught cheating. If there was some practical way for ZAB to identify specific people who leak the password, obtain their IP address and get Poker Stars to agree to ban those people ONLY from PO freerolls don't you think he would do it?


    Concerning your suggestions elsewhere..... I'm sure if they are plausible ZAB will look at them, but ask yourself this, do you really think ZAB hasn't tried many MANY different ways to solve this problem? Do you think he wants or even LIKES to ban entire countries? Your entire position on this lacks an form of deductive reasoning or logic whatsoever. It's almost as if you have placed you have placed yourself in a vacuum and are arguing why it was a smart thing to do as your air runs out. The more you argue, the more light headed you get

    By the way... I DID read that thread. You made a comment CONFIRMING the problem, but even there you did not offer ANYTHING constructive in terms of solving it.What you DID suggest was something which ZAB had already dismissed as an option NUMEROUS times. IN FACT NO SOLUTION has been posted there yet. At least present eveidence that supports your own position and not mine lol

    I asked you one a simple question in my last post. "I have to wonder.... just how many times you have actually paid for the Poker Stars password anyway?". In English we call this throwing you a softball, an easy question just to check how you respond. As I expected you might, you responded in a very aggresive manner, throwing yet another insult where one was not required. I just wanted to figure out how often you HAVE played there because up untill recently I had played there with regularity. My goal was to try and assess just how well you understand the complexity of this issue. You claim that you have played there numerous times. If this is the case then I am sure you are well aware that the Romanians were banned. Why were you not arguing on their behalf when this happen recently? Are you arguing on principle, as I am, or just petty self interest? I believe that Russia was at one time banned as well. Are they still?

    Really, this is getting tiresome. You have yet to present ONE VALID way to solve the problem. All you have done is restate how little you understand it.
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