I dont really know, but i,m using a n HP probook, thats almost 2 yrs old now.only reason i got that model, was cause i needed the matte, NON glossy screen, and this one the one that had it. I agree with azreal on the dell tho,not becasue of how they are, mainly casue their customer suppport, is NOT Nearly as good as HP support is, at least to me.If u are not very picky tho, i see there are some really good deals out there right now GL, let us know what u get