I am sure the guys here are no where near as bad a degen as some on the live tourny circuit. On several occassions I have seen people win in excess of $30K, then by the next day, no longer have enough for the next days buyin. Some end up making themselves give the money won to others (for holding), and make them promise not to give it to them no matter how hard they ask for it back. The saddest was when this guy who struggled for the longest time, always having to beg for buyins, food, lodging, won over 30K, and he lost it all in 1 fucking night of debauchery.