From now on if someone wants to make a bounty it has to be simple. NO STIPULATIONS
example= 100 Point Bounty on 7PiedPiper7
see simple, no more stipulations. It causes to much cinfusion and disrupts the chat.
Thank you
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From now on if someone wants to make a bounty it has to be simple. NO STIPULATIONS
example= 100 Point Bounty on 7PiedPiper7
see simple, no more stipulations. It causes to much cinfusion and disrupts the chat.
Thank you
Drywallman3 for Mod
damn was gonna put bounty on you, but only if the person who KO's u finishes 3rd and u get KO'd while holding AA and he has 27, but you had to have finished 4 places after i got KO'd...
That is some funny shit there. I don't care who you are. ROFLQuote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
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Originally Posted by JLynn171
that may have worked 20 minutes ago.............
your a spineless cuntQuote:
Originally Posted by Drywallman3
point 1 it SHOULD be down to the mods discretion as to whether a bounty is posted or not afterall im pretty sure its what you are for and as such you should be able to use your common fucking sense
point 2 it was i thought fairly obvious as to why mr fucking cry baby didnt get his bounty stickied and as such this should be a none issue...especially when 80% of the bounties i see have that 1 stipulation of "out before me" and i know that ALL the bounties i have made have had it usually cuz of an llb
point 3 with you deciding this (as it seems to the outside world u just randomly make these descisions without any forethought as to the subsequent consequences this will essentially stop alot of the bounty postings whi9ch is generally a user with alot of points helping out users with not so many points of making some easy points
but kudos uve essentially allowed a member (who with his apparent roll really should be 2 busy to be playing here anymore) to fuck up everybody elses enjoyment of the site bounties are supposed to be fun and encourage friendly rivalries NOT to cause a big fucking drama in the chat
sharking for mod? sharking for a ban more like
EDIT: and really dry you needed to multipost? and essentially SPAM the thread way to break TOs of the site learn to edit greenboy its not fucking hard...look i just did it
It was me that took down the bounty in question
i don't care who took it down my points still standQuote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
azreal thanks for the comment, I am not the only Mod here and like a jury we all get together and talk and then we make a decision. We decided that bounties with stipulations is creating more work and drama for us to fix.
BTW cool hairdo
cool but wrong... its not that stipulations that are causing more work its the fucking idiot that likes to go to extremes has no common sense and refuses to see and apply logic..stipulations have never been an issue until he decided to go to the land of idiocyQuote:
Originally Posted by Drywallman3
and ty i guess
The problem that arises with bounties having stipulations is that even if someone doesnt complete all the stipulations they still look for the bounty to be paid. The person who set the bounty wont pay in this spot, and because it was stickied all the anger/abuse about getting the bounty is directed at mods.
It is just an avoidable headache if we just blanket ban any bounties with stipulations. Of course people are still allowed to post in chat if they want to have a bounty with stipulations but it wont be stickied, and if the person spams said bounty to keep it on the screen they will likely get a chat ban.
still never been an issue when common sense has been applied ive not seen any of the above issues u have mentioned be problems because the stipulations have always been minimal
Yeah thats a valid point, unfortunately some people/person took it too far and we are forced to do this now.
again proving my point...one fucking idiot moron ruining it all for the rest of us...the problem isnt the stipulations they have never been an issue...the problem is that fucktard trolling againQuote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
Has it occured to the MODS here that they can't really do ANYTHING to stop bounties with insain stipulations? After all if Sharking makes one of his classic memes and only reposts when the bounty post falls of the chat board he would not really be spamming. Making an unenforceable rule is asking for more trouble then the problem it was trying to fix in my books.
Azreal is right (cringe), MODS exercising good judgement with exisiting rules makes MUCH more sense. If someone DOES not like it, they can complain to ZAB after their ban is lifted.
there not saying they are stopping them...they are just saying that they wont sticky the ones with stipulations thus making it harder to be seen by people and essentially cutting them outQuote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
Not exactly.....Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
My point is simple..... the MODS actualy have no say in user posted bounties, only in user behaviour. Users can post any bounty they want as long as they don't spam the boards with them. Moderate the behaviour and enforce common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drywallman3
But we wont sticky any that have stipulations. When it is stickied people take for granted that its legit, that is why if there is a stipulation that isnt met people still want to get paid. By not stickying it we just dis-associate the site from the bounty so people are fully aware it has nothing to do with us.
I mentioned above that people are free to offer whatever bounty they want with whatever stipulations they want, just that they wont be stickied and if they are spammed to keep in main chat they will face the same punishment that other spammers do.
Then Bounties NOT being stickied will become the NORM Prawny. In essence what you are doing here is taking a problem that CAN be controlled and making it one that CAN NOT. You will end up with more drama, not less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
BESIDES the above, what you are saying IS NOT what the DRYWALLMAN says in his decree. "From now on if someone wants to make a bounty it has to be simple. NO STIPULATIONS". Nothing is said about what will or will not be stickied.
It sounds to me like the MODS did NOT get together and decide a course of action here. It sounds like THEY should. I strongly recommend they be both more CLEAR in what the actual rule is, AND not create a rule that abdicates their own responsibilities in the first place.
Though I don't agree with how Azreal said it, he nevertheless nailed it. The rules were fine as they were. All that is needed is for MODS to me be firm.
You are totally disregarding the issue that has lead to this. Ill try again. When we sticky a bounty with a stipulation and the person who KO's the dude doesnt meet the stipulation the person who set the bounty wont pay up. Of course you would think that this is the end of it and we move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
Unfortunately i can tell you from experience that the person who is trying to claim the bounty then moves onto the mods, pm'ing us non stop about wanting the points and how the site advertised it so has to pay up. No matter how many times we say we didnt set the bounty and that they didnt meet the stipulations they just dont listen and continue to ask us over and over to pay the bounty.
By refusing to sticky bounties with stipulations it does 2 things for us. 1) It removes the situation i described above, and 2) It saves us from having a debate in chat with someone who wants us to sticky a bounty with stipulations. We dont have to explain our situation on it every time someone wants a sticky.
The idea behind this isnt to control any situation, its simply so we dont get caught up in the middle of bounties gone wrong due to stipulations. If people want to make threads for their bounties or post them in chat that is fine, we are not trying to eliminate stipulations, we just dont want to be seen as liable for them.
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Originally Posted by Prawney
You are missing the point entirely and ultimately it is you and the other mods that will have to deal with the DRAMA that is to come.
Good Luck with that.
What are you talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
Azreal said "it", I said "it, each of us a couple times in our own way. Not meaning to be difficult but this issue doesn't affect me that much at all so I'm done saying "it".Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
I feel that you are just blatantly ignoring everything i explained to you. If not then i dont understand how you are reaching your judgement on the issue.
The funny thing Prawney is I feel EXCATLY the same way. It is clear to me we are at an impass. Why belabour the issue any further? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
Do yourself one favour, have someone write a clear and concise rule regarding bounties that can be linked to by keyword in the forums.
You are saying this will create drama, i went in depth to explain how it will help stop any drama, then you reply again saying it will create drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
Please elaborate so i atleast know where ur coming from. Explain how it is going to lead to more drama.
what the hell stipulations are you talking about
bump
I asked Zab once " How many disclaimers in a bounty is too many for us to sticky?" and he answered "7" ... which I took as sarcasm, meaning there should not be any.
As I said earlier, since bounties without stipulations can not be effectively stopped, and since only SIMPLE bounties (less common by my experience)will be posted, then un-stickied bounties with stipulations will become the norm (assuming people don't spam the boards). This will lead to a greater number of untracked bounties. Do you really think the people who bitch about not getting their points will care weather you stickied the bounties or not? Of course not. The more bounties that are sanctioned, the more FORCE the MODS have in arbitrating them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
Questions: How often does it happen that someone refuses to pay a bounty with stipulations?
Out of how many stipulated bounties on average?
The truth is, I agree. That being said, what I have seen though is that the unstructured system that exists works pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by MichMan
It has been indicated that ONE person created this mess (sort of). WHY hit everyone with a hammer, when there is only one nail sticking out of the box?
We arent trying to stop stipulations. I never once said that. What we are doing is distancing ourselves from them so that it is clear they have nothing to do with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TONelson
The majority of user bounties are placed by people who get knocked out as revenge and dont have any stipulations. The main issue is the bounties that stem from LLB's where people offer bounties on their LLB opponents, but only if they are still in tourney when the person in KO'd.
I dont have the exact number of people who refuse to play, but at a time it did cause some issues and we have basically stopped stickying them since (Yes a few have been stickied since) and the issues have dissappeared.
So in summary, since we initially stopped stickying the stipulations drama has decreased, and now with this thread the aim is to stop the drama wrt people complaining why we wont sticky a bounty.
I understand your concerns but atm its all theories of what might happen. What we are doing is something to solve issues that are already happening. If things go badly we can always reconsider.
got my first bounty that i collected the other day, now i player tag bounty players with an X so i kmow to collect
Well good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by treeman69
Never waste time actually reading a thread before posting in it. The 5 points are far more importent then NOT derailing an (albeit rare) importent discusion.
*smh*
what is bounties?
what is bounties?
When PO members get paid a certain amount of PO points for knocking a certain player out of a tourneyQuote:
Originally Posted by janpoker
When PO members get paid a certain amount of PO points for knocking a certain player out of a tourney
500 on lilg
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Originally Posted by Drywallman3
Just to remove any MORE confusion, Dman is referring to members wanting a mod to sticky a bounty. NOT to any and all bountys members want to do on their own.