Serious cheating going on by Bot at Carbon Merge (SNG Promotion) Proof below

My quick note to support... Pls tell me if im wrong...but this guys sharing his account, on drugs or a bot...HEs trying to tin the points promotion which equals $2k a month. Hes at $136k points - 2nd is only 96k...WTF MErge? hes literally logged in 24hours a day for at least the last 3 days. This is complete horeshet that I could find this and their anti-collusion software couldn't. I looked and I have $12k points...he has $136k lol below is why. If you play SNG you will run into WeatWadGod and usually someone talks back. not all the time - but 24hrs a day? see the times below.

OK I couldn't post that much data here... Ill try Zab to see if he can add it...

To Carbon: "Player MeatWadGod is playing hands 24 hours a day around the clock for at least the last 3 days I checked. That?s impossible for a human to play without sleep "well" for that long, I want an explanations as to why he is still allowed to play here ? he?s at 136k points this month. He?s either on drugs or using a program to auto-play hands.

I posting this on every blog I can find if you don?t get back to me and fast with a reason this is allowed. How can your computers not pick this up????? Forget collusion ? this guys been on a week bender ? or letting other players use his account ? which is unfair for the SNG promotion which has a $2k award for first.


07/18/13 6:52:14 AM Hyper Turbo - $2.20
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$1.01+$0.09 6 5 $0.00
3138193502331551497 07/18/13 4:52:14 AM Hyper Turbo - $5.50
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the thing is, what if he doesnt sleep at all. there is people out there that just eat right and never sleep..

10k character limit...if you want to see this data go to
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main site: Top Shark Pro
This lists all games played if you click on SNG at top then expand the + next to their player name - it shows 100 games at a time...HE had 99 pages of games... the first 5 pages were hour after hour of game play.... Complete bull shet.

My money would be on a bot, they set them up and just let them run sometimes. Hopefully support will nuke it

how many games did he/she/it win...whats there roi, i mean if hes putting in over 4K say playing that many games on a daily basis...to win 2K bot or not i dont see why ure getting in a titch over this

I've talked to him plenty of times. He goes on grinding binges for a few days, then sleeps a day, in a cycle. He is a great player and awesome guy. No cheating there.

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the thing is, what if he doesnt sleep at all. there is people out there that just eat right and never sleep..

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either way its not a level playing field - he's using drugs or more scary another few players are on his account.

Pretty sure MeatWadGod is not a bot. lol. I had long conversation with him, use to play DON with him, he multi-tables a lot of those before. Didn't know he switch to regular sng game. It is odd though, maybe he invented a program to auto play hand. lol

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I've talked to him plenty of times. He goes on grinding binges for a few days, then sleeps a day, in a cycle. He is a great player and awesome guy. No cheating there.

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That is nuts, lol

Pillboxx could attest for him too. We've been at a lot of tables together.

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how many games did he/she/it win...whats there roi, i mean if hes putting in over 4K say playing that many games on a daily basis...to win 2K bot or not i dont see why ure getting in a titch over this

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Hes trying to win the monthly SNG promotion - $2k for first. his earnings is ok - its just that I don't play poker with bots. or against 5 different people using the same screen name.

Laser, I understand where your coming from, But you may not like playing against 5 different ppl using the same screen, but who's to say he dont have roommates that dont play on his acct, which would be pretty much impossible to find out!! Your best off to just play your game and let the site try and handle it, if there is anything wrong!!

Definitely a bot, security will delete their account and any other account associated with that IP address. Its a shame there are so many cheaters in so many ways. I am ready for federally regulated poker in the US so we can have the freedom to choose where to play.

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I've talked to him plenty of times. He goes on grinding binges for a few days, then sleeps a day, in a cycle. He is a great player and awesome guy. No cheating there.

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Well then fuck me running - I talk to him, it, them whoever is using his screen name. IT's unnatural behavior - and smells to high heaven. So you mean if I look back 4 days he wont be on???? Bull shet. 3 days around the clock at least...tomorrow Ill ck for his "down day" lol...either way meth induced play shouldn't be allowed. its def not healthy and very suspicious. How the fuck do you ever spot a bot then????

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Laser, I understand where your coming from, But you may not like playing against 5 different ppl using the same screen, but who's to say he dont have roommates that dont play on his acct, which would be pretty much impossible to find out!! Your best off to just play your game and let the site try and handle it, if there is anything wrong!!

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thanks - I play well and can beat him - I just hate cheaters - and when I look at the points promotion (which I will never contend for) hes raping! I mean RAPING people.. $136k points to 96k in 2nd lol 37% ahead or so??? lololo bad enough I gotta deal with sonks all day calling doan my AA with 72,.,,, now their automated donks.

yes i havd seen both him and pillbox talking about a show on netflix called orange is the new black he was talking about it for 20 mins...when havad khan used to play online he would have 50 at a time going for at least 48 hours and he got booted until he videoed himself doing it and then was allow to do it from then on there are many players that do this but for 3 days that is crazy

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Pretty sure MeatWadGod is not a bot. lol. I had long conversation with him, use to play DON with him, he multi-tables a lot of those before. Didn't know he switch to regular sng game. It is odd though, maybe he invented a program to auto play hand. lol

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that's why I think he is sharing his account. but If MEerge cant spot this??? and I can? Wtf we'll see - he does produce lots of rake for them.

wow that is a hell of a lot of playing for 1 person but guess he has nothing better to do lmao

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either way its not a level playing field - he's using drugs or more scary another few players are on his account.

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because someone plays all the time u accuse them of drugs? dude get a fuckin grip. what proof of drug using is staying up? to stay up and play good wouldnt it be more proof worthy that he doesnt use drugs? lol ur not a nice guy laser, accusations when yu dont see the person on the other side of the screen. and theres no drug testing in poker buddy? lol

ok ok you got me, I am not a bot btw........................................

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yes i havd seen both him and pillbox talking about a show on netflix called orange is the new black he was talking about it for 20 mins...when havad khan used to play online he would have 50 at a time going for at least 48 hours and he got booted until he videoed himself doing it and then was allow to do it from then on there are many players that do this but for 3 days that is crazy

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thanks for the info - Im sure their are addicts out their high on the game - and you can video whatever you want - their still could be many users on his account - either way its abusive to him self and the game - too difficult to spot bots.

I swear on my left ball sack that Meat is no cheater...

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I swear on my left ball sack that Meat is no cheater...

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how many ball sacks do you have???

hey Im trying to get a grip - Detective righteous - tell me how someone plays poker for 4 days non stop in SNG!!! which starts and stops every 5 minutes sometimes??? the answer is?? HEs a bot or he's using stimulants (caffeine is a drug moron), he's literally a "special" person with an addiction or mental problem, or illegally sharing his account. None of these is out of the realm of possibilities.

Wouldn't you want to know if a player your playing against is behaving unnaturally? Just Like a bot????? online? You sir, need to get a grip. Safety first - if I'm fkn wrong Ill send flowers. any player playing SNG Hyper Turbo for Christ sake for 24 hours a day needs to be cked...gd or bad.

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I swear on my left ball sack that Meat is no cheater...

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Thanks J - and I apologize in advance and only posted here and talked to support to see if they're even alive or even care. But if Merge emails me back and boots him - I want your ball....the left one.

Laser, jus saying and Tommy can probably vouche, for me, I can play with no problems, 2 days str8 nonstop sng's!! Jus saying, Not saying that makes it better for the 4 days ur talking bout, im jus saying in general lol!!

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I've talked to him plenty of times. He goes on grinding binges for a few days, then sleeps a day, in a cycle. He is a great player and awesome guy. No cheating there.

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some people don't sleep sometimes, don't have to be drugs. i'm sure this person ha validated their i.d. why are you worried about himher? im sure Carbon will deal wth it if itsa problem

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hey Im trying to get a grip - Detective righteous - tell me how someone plays poker for 4 days non stop in SNG!!! which starts and stops every 5 minutes sometimes??? the answer is?? HEs a bot or he's using stimulants (caffeine is a drug moron), he's literally a "special" person with an addiction or mental problem, or illegally sharing his account. None of these is out of the realm of possibilities.

Wouldn't you want to know if a player your playing against is behaving unnaturally? Just Like a bot????? online? You sir, need to get a grip. Safety first - if I'm fkn wrong Ill send flowers. any player playing SNG Hyper Turbo for Christ sake for 24 hours a day needs to be cked...gd or bad.

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Laser is the new poker police apparently, Saying caffeines a drug.. watch out lasers ganna put a caffeine drop on us all soon lmao

there are more bots online than people think and they're also pretty easy to set up too. i don't know about this guy as i don't play on carbon but if you wanna see a bot check out this guy.

410732267363 pokerstars - Player Profiles

bots are everywhere. its not actually cheating or it wouldnt be allowed :/

think about it!

its like a prop player a cardroom pays, its just programmed, they dont ALWAYS play the same way but 90 percent of time its an easy player to read and only bad players lose to them. they are meant to take money from bad players

I've at times wondered if MeatWadGod is a bot. I just don't know though. I've played with him many times and he does chat in the chatbox. But just because he uses the chatbox doesn't mean that he's not using bots. I play against him in the DON's. He plays from the $1 games all the way up to the $50 games. I haven't seen him hardly at all though at the DON tables for the past couple of weeks. He did play a lot but I don't think that he played a lot during the morning hours. Although he played a lot of hours, he wasn't playing 24 hours a day when I was playing against him.

What makes you think he is cheating? There are tons of players who play 8-12 tables at a time, 1000s of hands per hour.

I used to play 12+ tables of limit holdem for 8+ hours a day so it's more likely that he is obsessive rather botting.

well I for 1 can say that's possible "if uyour talking about games" bc I played 13hrs a day of sngs for a monthly leaderboard on luvin poker and lemme tell you....I played 12 tables at once....get koed reg for another n so on...but w.e..and im talking that was for a month

carbon sucks....iaint ever ever playing at acarbon unlessthey allow p2p trasnsfersagain.....stupidest decision to put a stop onthose....MORONS!

FUCK CARBON UNTILL THEN!!!!THEYB WONT GET MY BIUISNESSS!!!! THEY WILL DIE....imma play pokerhost on merge becasue theyallow p2p transfers!.....best skin on merge!

How is a drug cheating? SMH you cant take a performance enhancing drug that gives you an unfair advantage in poker.

Wow. If this was pokerstars, they would've been all over it and with an explanation. You're right, it's probably a bot or he's sharing and they're taking turns playing. If it's a bot, just examine the way he plays hands.

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that's why I think he is sharing his account. but If MEerge cant spot this??? and I can? Wtf we'll see - he does produce lots of rake for them.

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Trust me when I say Merge has very poor security when it comes to detecting bots or even collusionary play between teams of people. I have seen many intelligent threads where the players are outing the cheaters that Merge never saw.

The problem with examining the way he plays hands is that a massive multitabler plays pretty much the same as a bot plays. I actually examined Meat's game pretty closely because I played against him every day. He's a tight player who offers few surprises. I suspected that he might be a bot too but he seemed to play mostly certain hours in the day, not 24 hours a day. People rarely run their bots 24 hours a day either, so his schedule probably doesn't mean much one way or another.

I don't think though that forums are the right place to sling around accusations. Players do multitable. There's nothing wrong with that. If someone is suspected of being a bot that person should be reported to the site, not tried in the court of public opinion.

None of the sites including PokerStars tells 3rd parties the results of their investigations so the most anyone can do is report it and let the cards falls where they may.