Also something else that i have noticed in my many supervising positions over the years is that if you dont know there is a problem you cant fix it. countless times people complain about something to their co-workers in the break rooms and what not but no bod ever brings it to upper managements attention so therefore nothing gets done about it. and then after weeks or months or years of a problem people finally get frustrated and severl people in a short amount of time complain to the right people and then finally the problem gets fixed. And the employees say well its about time they did something about it (well they had just become aware that it was an iussue and fixed it almost immediatly) so its more its about time you guys said something about it to someone who matters.