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    Quote Originally Posted by joefine View Post
    sorry guys - i didn't mean for this to go off on the subject of whether online poker sites are rigged or not. actually like i said in my initial post the data for all hands show that there isn't any significant deviation. As for my own hands, I think I may be doing something wrong as the reports only show the the winning player and player who called the all-in. Therefore I believe I'm missing some hands that I was involved with. I will see if I can modify the report and get ALL the hands I was involved with. At any rate, sorry to start another thread about rigged poker - didn't mean to.
    No worries about that. I honestly was looking for clarification of your data more then anything else. It's really ambiguous as is.

    Say I said something like "My AA hands loses 30% of the time!!!! MERGE IS RIGGED everyone knows AA is a 85% fav HU, I LOSE TWICE AS MUCH!!!"

    First question should be how many hands in your sample size... playing 10 hands with AA and losing 3 of them is 30% but its not enough hands to be reliable data. (I know you already get that)

    "My AA hands only wins 70% of the time AND my sample size is 10,000 hands!!! See its rigged!!" Ok the sample size is much better there obviously but the question you should ask is of those 10,000 hands how many of them were HU. If 5000 of those hands were HU and 5000 were against more than 2 people, the 70% is a fair number.

    The devil is in the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmeelneg View Post
    No worries about that. I honestly was looking for clarification of your data more then anything else. It's really ambiguous as is.

    Say I said something like "My AA hands loses 30% of the time!!!! MERGE IS RIGGED everyone knows AA is a 85% fav HU, I LOSE TWICE AS MUCH!!!"

    First question should be how many hands in your sample size... playing 10 hands with AA and losing 3 of them is 30% but its not enough hands to be reliable data. (I know you already get that)

    "My AA hands only wins 70% of the time AND my sample size is 10,000 hands!!! See its rigged!!" Ok the sample size is much better there obviously but the question you should ask is of those 10,000 hands how many of them were HU. If 5000 of those hands were HU and 5000 were against more than 2 people, the 70% is a fair number.

    The devil is in the details.

    All the hands in the report are for HU. My understanding of the reports is they filter the report for all-in with only 2 players involved in the all-in. So if there was a multi-way all-in pre-flop these reports would not capture the hand. Same for the flop report only 2 people involved for the all-in. Hope this clarifies things.

    But at any rate, stats are still nice to see how and when and why there are leaks in your game.

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