sucked out again

[MovingFlea]

Volume 3



KQo vs Q6s

[lilturkgirl]

Volume 3



KQo vs Q6s

and another misplayed hand

[MovingFlea]

and another misplayed hand

I was doing pot control, in case someone sucks out I can get away from it. It was a pointless attempt since my stack was so small I was commited to call anyhow. Of course I'm raising if I had at least 20 BB.

I know what I'm doing lol. ABC poker just doesn't cut it, these days.

[lilturkgirl]

I was doing pot control, in case someone sucks out I can get away from it. It was a pointless attempt since my stack was so small I was commited to call anyhow. Of course I'm raising if I had at least 20 BB.

I know what I'm doing lol. ABC poker just doesn't cut it, these days.

if you put in a small raise pre and isolated len.. the sb would not of most likely called with a Q6s.

[MovingFlea]

if you put in a small raise pre and isolated len.. the sb would not of most likely called with a Q6s.

lol. or I can see a flop against Q6s, in which i have him dominated and have the advantage of playing a small pot and have position. Good players love small pots, since it reduces variance. The only thing I have to worry about is a shot in the dark against me. My point is, I'm a loser no matter what I do.

[TheHaversham]

i was doing pot control, in case someone sucks out i can get away from it. It was a pointless attempt since my stack was so small i was commited to call anyhow. Of course i'm raising if i had at least 20 bb.

I know what i'm doing lol. Abc poker just doesn't cut it, these days.

rofl

[lorenz0wns]

Volume 3



KQo vs Q6s

you have to open this mate, pot control does not mean limping pre and seeing a small pot. pot control means when you're postflop and you see a scary board that you can easily get check/raised on you decide to check it instead of betting so you don't bloat the pot up. Basically by keeping the pot small you'll be able to continue with your hand if you feel you have a chance @ winning in showdown. also u get ur opp to try and bluff u if u think that they think you're weak.

u made a huge mistake limping because u only have 16bbs and with the blinds raising every 8 minutes you will want to double ASAP. and in this particular hand if u limp a strong hand like KQo and miss the flop what's your plan of action? fold? that's a waste of 1 BB and you'll be down to a 10BB stack when the blinds raise again.

even if you hit your hand your opp most likely will miss, so really you could have picked up the same amount raising pre than limping and betting post. Also, this particular tourney is high variance because it's basically a turbo.

good players recognize when they make mistakes, you need to learn the fundamentals and learn why some of the plays you make are not optimal. we all make mistakes but the best players learn from it and fix it. this is not how you crush freerolls.

[MovingFlea]

I know how to play ABC poker LorenzOwns. I've playing a rigid, "correct" strategy long enough that I can do it without much thought. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the standard as long as you know why you are doing it. There are so many variables in this game that you simply can't say, well you need to do this, or that, exactly the same way every time.

The reasoning behind my play was, stack size. With less than 10BB (shortstack) shoving is pretty much the best play because you need to increase fold equity as much as possible. With more than 20BB you can afford to take risks and be aggressive, especially pre flop, because you have a stack large enough to make plays and run over bad players.

The most AWKWARD, stack size in tournament poker is, the 15BB range, without antes. At this point, making a raise pre flop and taking it down pre doesn't net you a large pot relative to stack size, and if your continuation bet bluff gets called, you lose half of your stack and are left with, an absolutely crippled stack that is liable to be called liberally by any big stack. This situation, although not the most likely outcome, happens often enough that I wanted to avoid it if possible.

Note that I wouldn't have made the same play out of position. I would have raised it from middle position to get the ace rags to fold.

[lorenz0wns]

I know how to play ABC poker LorenzOwns. I've playing a rigid, "correct" strategy long enough that I can do it without much thought. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the standard as long as you know why you are doing it. There are so many variables in this game that you simply can't say, well you need to do this, or that, exactly the same way every time.

The reasoning behind my play was, stack size. With less than 10BB (shortstack) shoving is pretty much the best play because you need to increase fold equity as much as possible. With more than 20BB you can afford to take risks and be aggressive, especially pre flop, because you have a stack large enough to make plays and run over bad players.

The most AWKWARD, stack size in tournament poker is, the 15BB range, without antes. At this point, making a raise pre flop and taking it down pre doesn't net you a large pot relative to stack size, and if your continuation bet bluff gets called, you lose half of your stack and are left with, an absolutely crippled stack that is liable to be called liberally by any big stack. This situation, although not the most likely outcome, happens often enough that I wanted to avoid it if possible.

Note that I wouldn't have made the same play out of position. I would have raised it from middle position to get the ace rags to fold.

this is incorrect because since it's a turbo tourney u WANT to GII with KQo. literally 8 min lvls and u'll go from a 15bb stack to 10bb stack. idk what your reads were vs the SB/BB but if they are tight it's an easy open/cbet postflop and if they are sticky players that like to see the flop it's an easy shove.

limping is the 3rd worst play to do pre. yeah u only pick up blinds/no antes but it's a turbo tourney and u needa focus on the most optimal play that is likely to double u up and limping is not it for sure. btw flatting utg with k3s LP is not "abc" poker

[mommahud]

this is bs here:
mattdagreat6924 Posts SB 25.00
mommahud17 Posts BB 50.00
bug5961 Folds
swedebwfc1 Folds
SquisheeeFishy Folds
NiftyJ Folds
GodzAmongKingz1 All In 449.00
OneCard38 Folds
jonny806 Folds
mattdagreat6924 Calls 424.00
mommahud17 Calls 399.00
mattdagreat6924 Checks
mommahud17 Bets 50.00
mattdagreat6924 Raised to 450.00
mommahud17 Calls 400.00
mattdagreat6924 Bets 900.00
mommahud17 Calls 900.00
mattdagreat6924 All In 2796.00
mommahud17 All In 1151.00
mattdagreat6924 Shows Jh,7c
mommahud17 Shows Js,Ah
GodzAmongKingz1 Shows Ac,2d
GodzAmongKingz1 Out
mommahud17 Out
mattdagreat6924 Won 1347.00 from Pot 1 with Full House - Jacks over Sevens
mattdagreat6924 Won 5002.00 from Pot 2 with Full House - Jacks over Sevens
mattdagreat6924 Won 1645.00 from Pot 3 with Full House - Jacks over Sevens