i have to say this;ive played 6 turnys on merge and dont think ive seen a bigger bunch of fish,at least 80% on carbon.its a dog eat dog turny,so its basically a call-n-draw crack down.cant figure if they are newbies,donkeys,just plain idiots or possibly brain damaged.my 7 year old daughter can out playem.thats a good thing tho,when the donk stops hittin,you can bust his azz quik.fold on the idiots and raise the newbies.