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    Elite PokerOwned Member WECpoker's Avatar
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    Just happy to win this....Just had decided I was calling any bet here

    The guy used a lot of time on the river to decide his bet, and while I generally think people who use this tactic have the goods, I had already decided I was calling the bet

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    marisa22 ($3,050)
    WyleECoyote1 ($2,511)
    Jerrrrrrrrome ($3,260)
    Yettiman171 ($3,040)
    lolBlackFriday ($2,880)
    icuucme23 ($2,967)
    Boobala8 ($2,590)
    CrazySteve420 ($2,855)
    johnny4141 ($3,892)

    marisa22 posts (SB) $15
    WyleECoyote1 posts (BB) $30

    Dealt to WyleECoyote1 Tc Ad
    Jerrrrrrrrome raises to $60
    fold, fold, fold, fold, fold,
    fold, fold,
    WyleECoyote1 calls $30
    FLOP ($135) 9d Jd 6d
    WyleECoyote1 bets $135
    Jerrrrrrrrome raises to $270
    WyleECoyote1 calls $135
    TURN ($675) 9d Jd 6d 8s
    WyleECoyote1 checks
    Jerrrrrrrrome bets $450
    WyleECoyote1 calls $450
    RIVER ($1,575) 9d Jd 6d 8s Qc
    WyleECoyote1 checks
    Jerrrrrrrrome bets $2,480 (AI)
    WyleECoyote1 calls $1,701
    Jerrrrrrrrome shows Ac Ks
    (Pre 74%, Flop 53.9%, Turn 61.4%)

    WyleECoyote1 shows Tc Ad
    (Pre 26%, Flop 46.1%, Turn 38.6%)

    WyleECoyote1 wins $4,977

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    Very nice Wec!!! Nice call!

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    weak call, next time you will get dominated by him.

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    Elite PokerOwned Member WECpoker's Avatar
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    FWIW we are talking Carbon $11 8K gtd

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    nice call there. gotta go with your gut there.

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    Some people just bet and bet and bet. It doesn't always work out for them though.

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    well just donk make fish call end den get lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by WECpoker View Post
    The guy used a lot of time on the river to decide his bet, and while I generally think people who use this tactic have the goods, I had already decided I was calling the bet

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    marisa22 ($3,050)
    WyleECoyote1 ($2,511)
    Jerrrrrrrrome ($3,260)
    Yettiman171 ($3,040)
    lolBlackFriday ($2,880)
    icuucme23 ($2,967)
    Boobala8 ($2,590)
    CrazySteve420 ($2,855)
    johnny4141 ($3,892)

    marisa22 posts (SB) $15
    WyleECoyote1 posts (BB) $30

    Dealt to WyleECoyote1 Tc Ad
    Jerrrrrrrrome raises to $60
    fold, fold, fold, fold, fold,
    fold, fold,
    WyleECoyote1 calls $30
    FLOP ($135) 9d Jd 6d
    WyleECoyote1 bets $135
    Jerrrrrrrrome raises to $270
    WyleECoyote1 calls $135
    TURN ($675) 9d Jd 6d 8s
    WyleECoyote1 checks
    Jerrrrrrrrome bets $450
    WyleECoyote1 calls $450
    RIVER ($1,575) 9d Jd 6d 8s Qc
    WyleECoyote1 checks
    Jerrrrrrrrome bets $2,480 (AI)
    WyleECoyote1 calls $1,701
    Jerrrrrrrrome shows Ac Ks
    (Pre 74%, Flop 53.9%, Turn 61.4%)

    WyleECoyote1 shows Tc Ad
    (Pre 26%, Flop 46.1%, Turn 38.6%)

    WyleECoyote1 wins $4,977
    Really don't want to hate on you for your play of the hand, but I don't like several parts. Jerrrome is a thinking player who posts on 2+2 and also is ranked somewhere near the middle of the OPR top 100. Having said all that, you are playing a 100bb stack OOP vs a thinking reg. I am indiferent to your lead otf. On one hand, he could just lay his hand down and you win the hand, but he can also float you in a pot that is undoubtedly going to become more bloated on future streets. I personally like just folding A10 pre to a thinking reg who is also IP vs you, and can play near perfectly against you given the dynamic. You basically got the best board run-out that you could have possibly hoped for. I mean say you turned the NFD, you are OOP. He probably would check it back, and see what you did OTR. I hate to say it bro, but I would fold even AJ here as you are giving up a bunch by being OOP vs a player who is better than you. I mean tbh, I really don't like playing this hand OOP to an EP raise vs anyone that I don't consider to be a fish. The mere fact that you saw him barrel off 100bbs in the first level should give you an indication as to why you shouldn't play A10 here. He picked up more equity ott, but I can see him barreling us irrespective of the J ott. He knows that your range consists of a lot of Ad/Kd/Qd. I also think that you played this hand very poorly otf. If you are not looking to play a big pot then why are you calling pre-flop? If you think that you have the best hand pre-flop, then why are we just calling? Even if we know that the villain has a high frequency of barreling off, do we really want to get involved with a HAND LIKE THIS? I say if you did decide to play the hand, just c/raise get it in otf, or when you lead and he min-clicked it back; just raise it enough to where he has to make a decision for his stack.

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    Wish I had the time to really concentrate on this but just smoked a fat bowl and not really in the reading vibe right now haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickread23 View Post
    Really don't want to hate on you for your play of the hand, but I don't like several parts. Jerrrome is a thinking player who posts on 2+2 and also is ranked somewhere near the middle of the OPR top 100. Having said all that, you are playing a 100bb stack OOP vs a thinking reg. I am indiferent to your lead otf. On one hand, he could just lay his hand down and you win the hand, but he can also float you in a pot that is undoubtedly going to become more bloated on future streets. I personally like just folding A10 pre to a thinking reg who is also IP vs you, and can play near perfectly against you given the dynamic. You basically got the best board run-out that you could have possibly hoped for. I mean say you turned the NFD, you are OOP. He probably would check it back, and see what you did OTR. I hate to say it bro, but I would fold even AJ here as you are giving up a bunch by being OOP vs a player who is better than you. I mean tbh, I really don't like playing this hand OOP to an EP raise vs anyone that I don't consider to be a fish. The mere fact that you saw him barrel off 100bbs in the first level should give you an indication as to why you shouldn't play A10 here. He picked up more equity ott, but I can see him barreling us irrespective of the J ott. He knows that your range consists of a lot of Ad/Kd/Qd. I also think that you played this hand very poorly otf. If you are not looking to play a big pot then why are you calling pre-flop? If you think that you have the best hand pre-flop, then why are we just calling? Even if we know that the villain has a high frequency of barreling off, do we really want to get involved with a HAND LIKE THIS? I say if you did decide to play the hand, just c/raise get it in otf, or when you lead and he min-clicked it back; just raise it enough to where he has to make a decision for his stack.
    Oh and additionally, I really do not like the c/call ott. C/jam is your best bet. You have 1125 in the middle and tons of FE. Even against the top of his range being sets you have 14 clean outs. 14 clean out vs the top of his range that I can imagine he has only 25% of the time make a c/jam the best bet. I really hate putting in another 450 chips in and just waving the flag when we miss 70%. wE HIT 30% + he folds a bunch, + all the money in the middle. We really don't need him to fold to our c/jam very often to show a profit. Sack up and get them in ott

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