Lol @ mixing it up with 12bbs. I am just saying that raising anything but AI is FLAT OUT BAD. There is no arguing with that point. If you do, you are BAD. We aren't looking to be flat called by 1 person, let alone 2 or more; which is likely to happen @ the micros with terrible players. What can you expect? I mean the mere fact that you raised 4x and don't see it is bad further illustrates the fact that maybe you need to learn at the micros. Sorry bro.... bad play. No arguing that.