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im in shock! i raised preflop 4x the blinds, dude calls me!! flop is AA3 he checks i bet 700 and he calls! he had KQ, tell me how he made that call with absolutely no outs!! i had JJ and just continuation bet, yes i didnt have an ace, but he didnt know that!! and by the raise preflop wouldnt have put me on ace or big pp???? and dont u know the Q comes on the turn! and i lose!! so dam sick!! some of these players need to learn to find the dam fold button!!
cry me a river .. wahhhhhhhhhhh
that sucks, usually if i dont connect on flop or catch a draw with mini raise, i'm out of there. but like you said, some people just have no respect for the bet.
was a paired flop, alot of players actually think their ahead, and the current trend in poker i notice with alot of donkeys is to float the flop even without a hand.. its a part of playing the game
welcome to poker, especially the micros....LOL
i jut got called AIPF, had QcQd, other guys calls AI w/AsJs, and a third guy tanks then calls n shows 2s2h
flop comes Ts8hQh, turn 9h river 7h..
I flopped the set, AJ turned a str8, 22 rivered a flush.. the guy with AJ had been playing almost every hand, the 22 had us both in chips 5x over.
:*(
All I can say is that unless you're playing a poker game, live or on the internet, that requires you to have at least $500.00 on the table, you are probably playing against at least 2 people who are clueless and really don't care about the money. That alone narrows the odds on any good hand that you may have. Poker is really not about math or ability in those situations. The math and skill have much less of an impact in internet poker these days unless you have that kind of money. Welcome to the world of internet donkey poker. The really sad thing is that poker has become much less a game of skill, which is the #1 reason that the lobbyists and politicians use to promote legal poker in the USA. If I were a politician, knowing what I know about donkey internet poker, I wouldn't vote for it to be legal. Pulltabs, Bingo, The Lottery, and Slot Machines already serve enough of the purpose for the idiot who just wants to gamble on their luck.
This feels like a level, but....
4x? What is the purpose there, just out of curiosity? Is that a normal bet size for you, or larger than normal? If I usually see you betting 2.5x or 3x and then suddenly see this 4x bet, I'm NOT automatically putting you on an Ace or a big pair, as you assume this player must. Your hand already feels vulnerable with that bet. And besides, when you DO get called, can you not assume, since you made such a large raise p/f, that the VILLAIN must have an Ace or a big PP?
You are spot-on about the non-folding morons populating the games, but remember that those are the solid players' bread and butter. We WANT those non-folding morons to follow us all the way to ValueTown. In this case, it sounds like it was YOU who needed to find the fold button.
Continuing...let's say you had AK or KK here, all else the same. Would you really bet that flop? If you have trip A's, most people hand out a little rope. Higher stakes, or vs multi-level thinkers, not so much; but you're not going to want to scare off action when you flop that strong. With KK, the bet is again pointless, as A) you're getting called if you're way behind, and B) as mentioned, it telegraphs that you didn't flop trips.
So you're pre-flop AND post-flop bets tell a story, which is that you'd really rather that guy folded. If he can read that story, he know's that you're vulnerable, and just might think K-hi is a good bluff-catcher. If stacks are going in on an AA3Q board, I don't want to have JJ.
i don't get why people complain about players calling with nothing. you lost a hand that by the sound of it, you both played pretty badly. if everyone played perfect poker there would be no money to be won. what range did you put him on when he called the cbet?
Did someone said CRACK. why you gotta said something like that and trigger my thoughts and emotions. i been clean and sober for ages.
Very true. Considering that the flop had two aces, a lot of players won't believe that you have an ace.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilturkgirl
Id have to disagree, players like that "used" to be the bread and butter of p[oker but these sites have figured out how to keep players like this around(they have to keep them around). Why would the person ahead need to find a fold button? seriously? KQ makes an absurd call here with nothing but hope and prayer that you have a smaller pair and he has to get awful lucky to win. the story it tells is he is WAY ahead no matter what he holds cause opponent has NADA,nothing worth going on in this hand for..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHaversham
This kind of player is nothing more then a slot lever pulling junkie to make this call but sadly online these days they are favored and the one who made the right play gets chastised yet again WOW
"i don't get why people complain about players calling with nothing. you lost a hand that by the sound of it, you both played pretty badly. if everyone played perfect poker there would be no money to be won. what range did you put him on when he called the cbet?"
Does it matter what range he put him on? He had him KILLED and knew it. People complain cause the rng goes against all odds most of the time. I agree with the politician statement, if i was one id vote no on any bill cause of all the pure BS luck players play with nowadays. There was absolutley no skill calling without a draw, PERIOD. but this is the norm these days online and so is the donkey responses of why you complain or play it as you did..
Your going to see all types of plays that are going to drive you crazy. If it bothers you then you shouldn't be playing. I think at some point we all make calls like that. That's part of the game. If we all played the same then it wouldn't be called gambling.
So...you're saying you think online poker is rigged? That somehow the software favors losing players? Wouldn't that level everyone's results out, when in fact the stats clearly show a minority of regular winners and vast sea of losers? People often say, "these people get lucky," or, "the site favors the dog," but in reality, like bad beats, but if you're the type of fish who's playing every hand then obviously you're going to hit more flops than a reg playing tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by abwil2
And I see you've played enough poker to realize that at NO time was the JJ "killing" him. Calling with a hope and a prayer? Is KQ really any different than AK in this spot, pre-flop? Are you saying that he should only ever call with hands that beat the raiser, lol? And as I said, after the flop the JJ is WAY ahead or WAY behind, so when he bets and gets called, a Q on the turn is not an indicator that he should go ahead and ship his chips.
I'm certainly not defending the KQ. I don't have a problem with his pre-flop call, the float on that flop was bad but not disastrous. And once the turn comes, it's likely he's ahead of someone who's bet the line that our HERO did. Remember, only 4x went in pre-flop, then a c-bet (can't see OP now so can't remember the flop c-bet amt), but with 8x in, and assuming everyone in the hand has chips to play, when the turn Q shows up, our JJ has turned into a bluff-catcher, not the monster that has anyone "KILLED." If, at that point, we are put to a decision for all of our chips, and we can't fold, then we've justified the donkey's play.
it didnt drive me crazy!! just amazed at how some players cant fold!! but its all good, it is free poker! cant expect too much!! i was just shocked that they called with air on that flop!Quote:
Originally Posted by AZPLAYS11
that is player ho you in next 1000 games wont to have so get glad
Iposted by: abwil2 d have to disagree, players like that "used" to be the bread and butter of p[oker but these sites have figured out how to keep players like this around(they have to keep them around). Why would the person ahead need to find a fold button? seriously? KQ makes an absurd call here with nothing but hope and prayer that you have a smaller pair and he has to get awful lucky to win. the story it tells is he is WAY ahead no matter what he holds cause opponent has NADA,nothing worth going on in this hand for..
this was my thought exactly!! weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
i have taken much worse beats than this on a daily basis, their is really no explanation, it just happens especially online and over and over again.
I think some of the folks get carried away with the Donk name calling. This is poker and if they were skilled at it they should know that it's not always being a donk.
yea get over it, id still love to be in a game with that player. just stop bluffing bad players
i would have read that.. good luck... .
people are stupid.