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For those of u who play on carbon, when u play re-entry mtts, does it seem like the money doesn't get added to the prizepool? I remember doing the math on one after rebuying myself, but the prizepool only matched the buy in, not the rebuys. That doesn't seem fair for carbon to do that. Anyone know why?
In a $11 ticket satty I thought the same thing. I dont know if its trueQuote:
Originally Posted by WILD
I had noticed the same thing but its been since January since I used carbon
I don't know about not adding the re=entries to the prize pool but I'm sure the reason for changing to "re-entries" vs rebuys is so that they can charge a buy-in fee over and over again.
what about live reentry tournaments? theres a little bit of a debate going on right now with that. mike matusow has said that people
have to deal with phil ivey being able to buy in 9 or 10 times. any thoughts?
I don't have a problem with re-entries since registration is open anyway. More money to the prize pool. Though I don't like the idea of 3-hour late registration. Pretty ridiculous
Exactly! an hour is long enough(too long) online but 3 hours even live would be ridiculous let alone online WOWQuote:
Originally Posted by gpahren
Ihave noticed and stopped playing rebuys alltogether!
I'm pretty sure they do add it on, but only after it goes past the amount GTD.
Once they hit the guarantee then they start adding money to the pool. I've seen it with satellite tourneys.
I don't see any difference between re entry and rebuy. Might the only slight difference is what you stated in your post.
yes even an hour late regs. is a while. I like half hour. But yeah some with the 3 hours take days to finish im sure
You would think that the money should go into the prize pool. I don't really play those types of tournaments. I know when I played on FTP the money did go into the prize pool once the limit was reached.
that's really bizarre... and really unfair haha... we should look on two plus two and see what they say, i find it hard to believe though
I've monitored it and they do add it to the pool after the gtd value is reached. I'll play a rebuy or reentry if I have to (most of the low-stakes gtd tourneys are of that type) but I hate it - it's as bad as a freeroll until after rebuy period is over
If it doesn't hit its guarantee with the original buy ins, shouldn't the re-entries be added anyway to at least get close or match the guarantee? (I just brought this up because I was in one of those $3.30 deep mtts, I think the guarantee was already passed, I did a re-entry, and I know it wasn't included. I did the math, the number of entrants, multiplied by the buy in, and it equaled only for entrants. My extra money wasn't included, and it made me wonder, how many others did a re-entry where the money wasn't added to the prizepool.)Quote:
Originally Posted by ph0n3_j4ck
I just played in the $1.10; $250gtd w/re-entries on Carbon and yes the re-entries are added to the prizepool.
The re-entries are added, but if the total amount of money from buy ins, re-buys, add-ons, and re-entries does not exceed the gurantee, then your not gonna see the prizepool grow larger. They don't add the buy ins on top of the guarantee untill the total buy ins have exceeded the gurantee. When the total amount of buy-ins does not meet the guarantee then this is called "overlay", meaning there is more money in the prizepool than amount from buy-ins. Overlay is a good thing because that means there is more money in the prizepool than there are buy-ins so it's extra or free money.Quote:
Originally Posted by WILD
Now if it was an "$x.xx added" mtt instead of "$x.xx guaranteed" ,then yes the buy-ins would be added to the already guaranteed amount like you, WILD, described in quotes at the top of this post.
Many players, many opinions. If you are really good player, you should have never problem with re-entry. You can caught as many fishes as ther would like to re-entry so often :-)
yea I agree if ur a solid player it shouldnt matter much!
what i think is ridciulous is the really bad players that just keep pushing and re-entering until late reg ends,so stupid.
That makes sense if they are doing it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordgort
Re-entry means the site also takes rake for each time you re-enter, where in an add-on they don't.
I like the re entry tournaments. One reason is because there is more money in the prizepool. Sometimes I like to keep it simple though, no re entry, no late reg. Ya just don't see them tourneys on Carbon much.
in most rebuys, you can rebuy right away, basically forcing everyone to. re-entry ya just start over, and at a different table.Quote:
Originally Posted by don7238
I don't like that Carbon has gone to ReEntries. I don't like ReEntries for the same reason I don't like to register too late, when you come in you are already behind. I am not good enough to give 30% of the field a head start on me. Also in the Reentry games you have the guys trying to build a lead by being overly agressive knowing they can reenter. I try to avoid guys like that when playing for real money cause they always seem to get lucky.
Happens a lot in rebuys and re-entry games. I have seen many push too many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseJames
I like the no rebuys no add ons make it or die .. but sometimes its nice to be able to do it in some o the guarantees .. And going in on late reg most everybody will have an advantage on you
yes you most reach guarantee money to start adding in pool that is in every site
Exactly they add the money to the pool after the gtd is met!
I have noticed that too. Thats really strange
yeah... it's cause re entry is a cop out to begin with... think about it
have to deal with phil ivey being able to buy in 9 or 10 times. any thoughts? an hour is long enough(too long) online but 3 hours even live would be ridiculous let alone online WOW thank you
More money to the prize pool. Though I don't like the idea of 3-hour late registration. Pretty ridiculous .good luck
I didn't think they calculated the value of the re-buys until the re-buy period was over. It's been awhile, but that's how I remember it.
As to re-buys and re-entries in general, I agree that solid players would prefer as many large-stacked idiots as possible. Let them rebuy, the same few names are getting the money anyway.
Bankroll mgmt is a key aspect of proper rebuy play, and those who are tightly protecting their 'roll cringe when they see someone pump 10-15 rebuys in right in the beginning or right at the end of the rebuy. BUT...there is surely strategy involved when some of these players do this. It could be argued that Phil Ivey gets more value out of his starting chips than an amateur, so much so that he could afford to restart with those chips several times. When your an odds-on favorite of making a final table, having a playable stack when everyone else is screwed down can be worth paying extra for.