Just play stud h/l instead. Once you get your home game onto that, it will be easier to play. After a while it is pretty straight forward.....
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Just play stud h/l instead. Once you get your home game onto that, it will be easier to play. After a while it is pretty straight forward.....
My disclaimer. Not a great or even good Razz player but this is what I do in HORSE to allow me to at least tread water especially later in the game when you can't just not play.
In HORSE the first rotation of Razz just play when you start out with 3 awesome low cards. In later rotations when it is getting to expensive to sit out don't worry about trying to win a big pot. If your hole cards are face cards and your door card is an Ace, two or even a three and most people are folding before the action comes to you, just look at the remaining door cards. If they are all higher just raise and try to pick up the bring in and the antes. So even with KQ3 and the 3 is the door card I will try to steal it right there. I'm not looking to get into a big showdown.
If you get called and your next up card is less than the villains up cards or the villain either pairs or has a card that is higher than 8 just push at him again. There is no 8 or lower requirement but it is a good baseline. Now if you get a lot of callers then slow down if you don't improve. However, at the higher levels we are really looking to isolate and survive until a game comes that you are stronger at or you get a true monster hand.
When the antes really start rising you should be able to represent a good starting hand especially if you have been tight. I always get a laugh when people try to bluff people out and all their up cards are paired or face cards.
Like the other stud variations you need to pay attention to all the up cards even of the people that folded.
At the lowest level it is unlikely you will be able to get people out. To many gamblers or people that are clueless about the game. So super tight is super right at that level.
razz is a great game ... probablymy next favorite to holdem.
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Originally Posted by azreal1
Easier to bluff makes it less of a skill game. Are you saying razz involves more skill than holdem or omaha? Because saying its the easiest contradicts it.
I was just thinking the same thing lol. JustSayn.......................................... ..............Quote:
Originally Posted by azreal1
Razz is seriously frustrating. How many times do I get hands that start A234 ,then I get KKA.
razz is tough you need alot of luck its the draw of the cards
yeah its tough, you need to know 4 breeds and also luck
Razz (and the other Stud games) make people's heads hurt because it forces them to actually use it. There's a lot more to pay attention to in a Stud hand compared to Hold 'em.
You will get used to it slowly.Quote:
Originally Posted by leelau