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Cant find HH sorry guys but in a nutshell....
8 left in $1.50 9max turbo sng... Blinds 50/100
I open 3x bb from EP leaving me with 1300 behind. LP villain shoves for 1900. Fairly tight player from what Ive seen so I decided to lay it and pick another battle later...
At the micro stakes is that a bad fold pre-flop? I think at best im flippin against overs which is a little early on for my taste.
for me its bad play that sng not mmt have many good cards you can get
well if hes shoving all his stack of 1900 and in late position... there really isnt anyone left to shove against ...which means he either wants the blinds to fold/making a squeeze play/maybe coinflip against you(the raiser)..another theory is that he could have been studyin everyones pattern and just waiting to make the right move. i think you really need to have a good judgement on this opponent and really get a feel or knowledge of what his shoving range is. i dont blame you for the fold, i think i might have also.
if its possible to knock you out. then I wouldn't of played it either if you weren't invested.y risk an over to hit and it happens often of even a bigger pair witch also happens often make a good raise see a flop.go from there and how they bet pre. no if there shorter than u by quite a bit that's a bit different I suppose even qq I will laydown preflop depending the situation.
Open folding JJ in this spot is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mpulsive07
The shove makes me think you're not crushed -- otherwise villain would call or maybe minraise and play for the trap.
I'm thinking AK, AQ looking for the fold equity. I would've looked the villain up.
Hard to lay down, but I think it looks prettier preflop than it actually is in my experience.
But he said racing that early is not what he wants to do. I wouldnt risk it that early with JJ either, too much game left to go allin aginst AK or AQ there. I guess there are some that feel like its better to take that risk early rather then later tho..Quote:
Originally Posted by lordgort
From how he played it I would put him on an under pair, maybe AK or AQ, either way you would get your money in good.
i prob would have folded too...my stats with JJ has been 3-32 which are shoves or calling all ins. my bet they had any pocket pair most likely AK which you could have won but 9 times out of 10 at least with my luck an A or K would hit. i hate both JJ and QQ and will lay them down if it means knocking me out unless i'm under 10 BB in which i'll rely on luck.
Well if he had AQ or AK it would have been a flip, but if he had a bigger pocket pair, you would have lost
if was against a very tight player u did good.i think u are facing KK or AA.if he had AQ,AK or QQ he just call.Quote:
Originally Posted by mpulsive07
I think it's the right call no matter what. Early in a sng you don't to get your stake in. You will itm more consistantly if you follow that rule. JJ becomes so much stronger 4 handed then 8. Calls there are ok. Remember you can't itm if someone donks you or you run into a bigger hand that early. My opinion, but I like to think I cash more often then not playing sng's. That has always been my philosphy.
3 times is quite a hefty raise number 1. i understand u were oop, and trying to send a messages, but still.
and number 2, good fold