it depends really! dollar turny id say 15 to 20 since its going to be a donkfest your variance is going to be MUCH higher and the plus games, dont know what your actually talking about? $2 to $5 games? if thats the case id say 40 to 80 cause again your not getting out of the donkfest games, push and pray is NOT poker, thats a slot puller mentality, which ALOT here have.