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Game started at: 2013/11/20 15:50:59
Game ID: 222270501 40/80 High Five - $1,800 GTD, Table 14 (Hold'em)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Tiger(PR (1305).
Seat 2: FormerStarsPro (5581).
Seat 3: The Real Razz (5364).
Seat 4: cags13 (4665).
Seat 5: zingbust1 (5380).
Seat 6: DUKEofMORONGO (9600).
Seat 7: br1ckm4son13 (4298).
Seat 8: Lard.ass (4590).
Seat 9: Renojim (9396).
Player The Real Razz has small blind (40)
Player cags13 has big blind (80)
Player The Real Razz received a card.
Player The Real Razz received a card.
Player cags13 received a card.
Player cags13 received a card.
Player zingbust1 received a card.
Player zingbust1 received a card.
Player DUKEofMORONGO received a card.
Player DUKEofMORONGO received a card.
Player br1ckm4son13 received a card.
Player br1ckm4son13 received a card.
Player Lard.ass received a card.
Player Lard.ass received a card.
Player Renojim received a card.
Player Renojim received a card.
Player Tiger(PR received a card.
Player Tiger(PR received a card.
Player FormerStarsPro received card: [Qd]
Player FormerStarsPro received card: [Ad]
Player zingbust1 folds
Player DUKEofMORONGO folds
Player br1ckm4son13 folds
Player Lard.ass folds
Player Renojim calls (80)
Player Tiger(PR folds
Player FormerStarsPro raises (270)
Player The Real Razz folds
Player cags13 calls (190)
Player Renojim calls (190)
*** FLOP ***: [Qs 7s 10c]
Player cags13 checks
Player Renojim checks
Player FormerStarsPro bets (425)
Player cags13 calls (425)
Player Renojim folds
*** TURN ***: [Qs 7s 10c] [Ac]
Player cags13 checks
Player FormerStarsPro checks
*** RIVER ***: [Qs 7s 10c Ac] [7d]
Player cags13 bets (800)
Player FormerStarsPro calls (800)
------ Summary ------
Pot: 3300. Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7s 10c Ac 7d]




On the river, do we raise or call like we did? Thoughts on what villain had?

I would probably call. It's hard to put him on a 7 at that point because I doubt he would call that with bottom pair and two players behind him to act. He could have very possibly had the K J or a busted spade draw. I highly doubt he was slow-playing a set or a two pair, but that is another possibility. I definitely would need to know his playing style in the previous hands to make a good decision.

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Originally Posted by sickread23

Game started at: 2013/11/20 15:50:59
Game ID: 222270501 40/80 High Five - $1,800 GTD, Table 14 (Hold'em)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Tiger(PR (1305).
Seat 2: FormerStarsPro (5581).
Seat 3: The Real Razz (5364).
Seat 4: cags13 (4665).
Seat 5: zingbust1 (5380).
Seat 6: DUKEofMORONGO (9600).
Seat 7: br1ckm4son13 (4298).
Seat 8: Lard.ass (4590).
Seat 9: Renojim (9396).
Player The Real Razz has small blind (40)
Player cags13 has big blind (80)
Player The Real Razz received a card.
Player The Real Razz received a card.
Player cags13 received a card.
Player cags13 received a card.
Player zingbust1 received a card.
Player zingbust1 received a card.
Player DUKEofMORONGO received a card.
Player DUKEofMORONGO received a card.
Player br1ckm4son13 received a card.
Player br1ckm4son13 received a card.
Player Lard.ass received a card.
Player Lard.ass received a card.
Player Renojim received a card.
Player Renojim received a card.
Player Tiger(PR received a card.
Player Tiger(PR received a card.
Player FormerStarsPro received card: [Qd]
Player FormerStarsPro received card: [Ad]
Player zingbust1 folds
Player DUKEofMORONGO folds
Player br1ckm4son13 folds
Player Lard.ass folds
Player Renojim calls (80)
Player Tiger(PR folds
Player FormerStarsPro raises (270)
Player The Real Razz folds
Player cags13 calls (190)
Player Renojim calls (190)
*** FLOP ***: [Qs 7s 10c]
Player cags13 checks
Player Renojim checks
Player FormerStarsPro bets (425)
Player cags13 calls (425)
Player Renojim folds
*** TURN ***: [Qs 7s 10c] [Ac]
Player cags13 checks
Player FormerStarsPro checks
*** RIVER ***: [Qs 7s 10c Ac] [7d]
Player cags13 bets (800)
Player FormerStarsPro calls (800)
------ Summary ------
Pot: 3300. Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7s 10c Ac 7d]




On the river, do we raise or call like we did? Thoughts on what villain had?

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do u have any reads on villain? i rather call>raise with 2pair. the only hands that villain would thin call ur raise would be TP, and that's unlikely given u have an ace blocker in ur hand. villains sizing generally suggests hes betting 4 value with a strong hand like trips/straights/fh's and if u just call him u beat his busted draws or monkey bluffs. if he actually beat u on the riv, then u pretty much lose the minimum.

given the way villain played this hand, it seems like he doesn't have a set because he'd want to get value from TP/2pairs/smaller sets in that board texture where if a scary card hit the turn then it'd kill action. it seems like he's more on a draw tbh like KJ, 89, and flush draws. the turn card sucks but their are more combos of 89's + FD's that u should extract value from.

however, instead of checking back turn i prefer betting around 1000 and if river bricks like it did then he either bluffs and u call or he checks and u value bet him. if i lead turn and he raises, then I call and call his river bet if the card bricks. 2pair is too strong of a hand to fold in this particular spot early in the tourney and i assume the BI is $5 or $10 at the most

i would rather call , cause he can have anything at that point

Id just call that way if he does have a hand like said above you lose the minimum you can right there, unless you know you have him beat then you repop him..

Lol classic. Yeah just call!!!

just call here, like drock said.