With monster hand like AA KK QQ AK how can I act at the pre flop?
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With monster hand like AA KK QQ AK how can I act at the pre flop?
Depends on your position and number of players at the table. at a full 9 handed table first 2 positions generally min bet, other positions 3-4x bet... but its situational
early game early position ya 4x it.. later in game 2.5x .... u wanna disguise ur range.. so open aa and kq same
As with every other post of this nature, there are no absolutes. It depends on how deep you are, what your feeling about the table is, etc. Every hand is a unique situation.
Shouldn't it depend on how the people in the table play? If you move to a new table an u get a monster hand, maybe just play the hand really conservative with your bets, or donkish, so they get a bad read on u.
depends on stages in tournaments, whos at the table.. your table image atm etc
All in
Raise it always with these hands, however much you like.
Number One is position, If you are in an early position you should slow play and just raise 3X the big blind and see who comes along...with any luck you might have an aggressive player that re-raises you (thats when you shove)... if you are in a late position or one of the blinds then you raise a little heavier (pot size bet) or depending on your chip stack go all-in...ask 3 different people and you will get 3 answers!!! Develop your own style of play.
IMO this is the best advice I've seen in this post. Every hand is different & depends on the other players, position, chip stack(s), in a tourney or SnG; the time into the game as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HopsnBarley28
some good points,but like they say bet it see who comes too
play a min bet hope for a all in if not look at flop then play with what you see
riseee and re raisee too
It depends on other players at the table, tourney stage (if it is bubble or begginning of the tourney...). But generally, I play it eiher PF 5-bet or all in
you have to play it very aggressive to scare the hands low and you can win on the flop luck
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but why would you bet lighter out of position and heavier in position? Shouldn't this be the other way around? To answer the original question I think you should make a 2.5-4xBB bet if opening. If there is already a raise then 3 bet. You want to be able to get as much value as you can out of the hand without betting too light which gives your opponent a chance catch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by walterb1991
5 bet? If there is a raise, re-raise, and then another re-raise I'm folding everything but AA (maybe KK if playing with a bunch of nits) which I probably won't have since someone else most likely has AA or KK too with this much action ahead of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by IoInterista
I would raise it 5x just because that would get everybody else to fold. The ones who call u more than likely has Pocket Pair also and just hope and pray u don't get sucked out
Yeah it really just depends on your position and where in the tournament you are at. Also depends on the cards you've showed down in the game because the other plays will have a range for you and know you have something if you always bet it big.
I like to act monstrously against idiots, trappy against better players, and of course stack sizes dictate my actions before I ever look at the cards anyway.
It all depends on what kind of image your opponents are seeing with the amount of aggression and types of hands shown. In a tournament, stack sizes and the blinds can influence the best action to take.
IMO this the best advice about advice in this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by SyKoChiller
The best advice doesn't exists :-) It is very useful to recognize when it is the time to fold even monster hand! It is not always worthy to goes all-in with a top pair monster hand ... you need to count all factors of game, not only strength of your own hand!
these are monsters no doubt ,what ever you do you better put in a decent pre flop raise,you want to limit the number of people you go up
against .There's nothin worse than getting aces cracked by a set or two pair.
beef up the pre flop raise....gotta make the donkeys think twice...the more you let in the more they catch
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I think the simplest answer I can give is you either "act" or don't. But keep in mind you can begin or desist "acting" later in the same hand at any point. From there, my only simple advice would be to be more inclined to just play straight forward when you're playing lower stakes or have a lot of loose players at the table. However, "monsters" like any other hand have a near infinite number of variable to affect how they should be optimally played. And to very different options could be equally effective.
I agree you dont want them to see the flop so throw a barrell at them. and if nothing seems to be helping them out fire a 2nd barrell with alot of beef cause u dont wnt them to make a hand.
Hi. Probably the only way you will have a chance at the pre-flop while holding those great cards in the hole are:
1. If no one else has those exact cards as you, thus leaving you with a lesser chance to hit.
2. If there are no [other] donkeys that are also going ALL-IN and betting their 2-3 off-suits...sorry, but they are most likely to hit because everyone else (the smart ones), didn't think to be a donk and bet their low cards with your ALL-IN.
3. If you have enough chips to cover any other ALL-INs at the table.
4. If luck is with you.
5. If I'm not at the table with you... :p