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This is something I always struggle with. Whenever I raise, I almost always get called or raised.
I can't play implied odds hands despite the fact it's really early in the tournament because I'll be raised out of them. If I go with a real hand, I'm still allowing a ton of variance to play out. I don't want to get pot committed with one pair at all.
I have a really hard time with this, especially in turbo structures where my time to accumulate chips is very limited.
Advice?
nothing u can really do but play tighter than them and try to get it in way ahead
2 options...be a nit and wait for him to get called by a bigger idiot before you start playing anything or u get the nuts
or go hyper agressive he raises u push 9/10 they will call with utter garbage or fold cuz they know ull probs have something
for me then thats the only time when its actually ok to limp. i'd see a flop as cheap as possible then let him fire away if you hit it hard.
If I notice some dude shoving every hand.. Eventually I know he's just bluffing the pot. If I'm feeling froggy I'll wait for the right hand and call him.
Otherwise I'll just fold out and wait for a table transfer or let someone else do my dirty work. Especially early on in the tournament.
i hate people whos rude
That has nothing to do with anything. Don't spam the forum please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ptbros72
Over time you have played with the same people enough to know or have taking notes to understand how that person plays. Rely on notes, or do like me, don't worry about pot odds or the math of poker and play :)
if you reise on shi..t end gay rereise way is he maniac
i hate having that guy to left of me. just gotta pick your hands wisely and wait for his donkness to get him knocked out. everytime ive went all in trying to get him to back down he magically has a good hand or beats me with crap hands and thinks he is good. no skill and its pathetic
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Originally Posted by azreal1
this strategy has caused you to come to chat way to often if you know what I mean LOL soooo not good advice sir
It's not perfect, but just play tight and either wait til you have a great hand or someone else takes him out.
Always have the same problem
play a little more snug and I don't like the idea of limping seems like a good way to get in trouble. RAISE
have had it happen a feww times and if you get a good hand rereaise after he does it
yes it happens to me all the time...all the crazy players are on my left..always
With maniac players, it's easy to get into the mindset, "He's obviously got nothing, since he does this every hand. I can call lighter than normal and still be ahead of his range." While this is typically true, you WOULD be ahead of his range, that wide open of a range can hit more, and bust you. And that is the mentallity that they WANT you to take, because when they actually have a good hand, they will be called by weaker hands, and make bank.
My main concern is not the maniac, it is the others that might have a real hand after him. If he is calling a lot, then when I have the top 5% of hands, I want my initial raise to be closer to 5 BB maybe a tad more (depends on blind level and starting chips). I don't want to be creating a juicy multi pot.
If he is coming in over the top each time you raise, then a 3-4 BB bet is fine. However, when he does reraise you pop it up again when it comes back to you (be careful of others in the pot). If it is just the two of you then reraise it to 40-50 % of his stack. Let him know that he will be playing for his stack on that hand. If he does call you, then you have to push on the flop, no matter what flops. In this case you have first in vig.
You can't be afraid. He might bust you. He might have a better starting hand. He might out flop you. You got to get all that crap out of your mind. He wants you to be afraid. He wants someone who knows how to make a good lay down. He is going to eat all their chips.
What he doesn't want is someone who will play back at him. Unless he is running hot you know he is playing a very wide range. So if you play a tighter range, you know the majority of the time you will be ahead of him.
Now if you are a LAG player and he knows it, then he is going to keep on punishing you. You either go HLAG like azreal1 said or you go rock tight but either way you need to be willing to fight and put in all your chips. Any sign of fear and he will own you. Heck, he will probably be owning all those chips at the table unless he gets trapped or someone stands up to him.
There is one player here that I can think of that is HLAG and I respect certain parts of his game. He can accumulate a huge amount of chips in very short time. However, he keeps on showing his bluffs with garbage. That's great if he tightens up but instead he keeps playing the same way.
i said they were his options i try to stick to the first option but other times its harder to do that especially late in the tourneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Drywallman3
I had same problem. What I did was this....early on, I simply never bet unless I'm willing to 3 bet or shove with it. They beat my top pair, so be it. Then again, I proably won't fool around with just one pair unless I have a good kicker, but i might 3 bet of just call if I have other outs. One pair, even top, could be beat by a lucky big blind who hit two pair.
doesnt' sound like the maniacs you speak of are really maniacs....you are possibly the maniac, overanalyzing shiz