Fascinating that this thread has generated so much action - all to deny collusion. Honestly, I have not seen any indication of collusion at the PO FRs, but this sort of gives the sense of of "methinks thou dost protest too much"...
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Fascinating that this thread has generated so much action - all to deny collusion. Honestly, I have not seen any indication of collusion at the PO FRs, but this sort of gives the sense of of "methinks thou dost protest too much"...
How may POers do you think are really that good with strategy??
Ok, so we're beating a dead horse, but I want to point out that this is one of those make you or break you moments at PO. We're not the most polite group. Things happen here that will piss you off on multiple fronts, and you need thick skin to survive in this community.
However, the things to also learn is that the ones that will stick around deal with all of it for free money play each other constantly. We know each other's play, and if we don't recognize you, we will assume you're a freeroll donk. Accusing us of collusion only supports this. We also have plenty of n00bs show up and disappear without putting any time into the site, so you'll have to forgive us for not taking you seriously. There are usually at least a few that are playing nice, more than you would realize on first glance.
One other thing, we ARE freeroll donks!! There are a few decent players here, but not that many!! Really good players outgrow freerolls, so clearly if we've been around awhile, that's not us.
Anyways, if you're biggest concert is a forum where people are nice all the time, then there are several others you should check out. If you want to make some money and participate in awesome promotions, then welcome, you're in for a crazy ride.
To add to rg's statement, the good players in here that DO play the freerolls do mostly for fun and site/promo participation, and will play more donkish because of it (less desperate for top prize). As well i take my play on bcp more serious then my play on merge or bovada, as those sites I'm not frequent on, so less desire to worry about top prize
Finally, a well thought-out response to my immature posts. As for switching to a different forum where people are nicer, no thanks, I kind of like it here. If I get kicked off, so be it, but I'm liking this place more and more each day. Whoever thought up all these promotions and stuff is a true genius and whoever it is who has the knowledge to create the site so that the promos actually work must be both a genius and a workaholic.
5 left? at THAT point it might be trying to step up a dollar in winnings.
I have no friends. :)
I enjoy the personalities and reparte on this site, I think that you may be downplaying the quality of at least a third of the playerz... ande the mini flame warz and putdowns I hve witnessed are all overshadowed by the mutual support and gunuine friendships I have seen evidence of... I think that you guys(generic, not sexist) are a pretty awesome little community... the freerolls are fun, the earning of points is not overwhelmingly difficult, and as you said, having a community allows fr players to makimize their promotional and freebie offers from sites who would otherwise have little incentive to notice players who are conributing so little to the rakes and bottom linez. I also think it's t kewl how you all seem to support each other when someone is having a deep run! I kno that kind of thing helps ME not to donk off due to excitement... (usually)
No i gon ham 23.7 nad try tto make me 45 cents you know?
I doubt they were soft playing. Something that could've been influencing odd play would be last longer bets. Trying to outlast each other. Besides, it's a freeroll and the prizes aren't that big.
The Po freerolls are very easy just sit back and play good hands
Yea alot of people in the frs min raise eachother to fish for cards
I never soft play im it to win it.
Yeah - there's not much incentive to collude on PO freerolls. Play gets pretty tight sometimes and if you're small stacked, the other stacks are going to pick fights with you and not the other big stacks. Plus, many cheaters/scammers get sniffed out quickly here.
yeah, but I mentioned in my original post that even when I became a medium stack they still played the same way, never involving themselves seriously against each other but constantly wanting to get involved in big pots with me. It's not that I ever really felt like they were genuinely colluding to get a few more pennies or dollars out of the freerolls, it just felt as though since I rarely play in these, that I was the outsider and they were all somehow like "good ole' boys" or something like that...players who resented a newcomer who knew what to do at the final table...it was just a feeling I had at the time, probably completely false.
What do you mean by "cheaters/scammers", how do people cheat and scam PO freerolls?
This thread made me SOFT
i play to win it no if ands or buts especially for money
Hell no, no soft play. I didn't even softplay my wife when her and I would go heads up in poker.
i dont think so. there might be a few who do but for the majority i would say no.
Freeroll bring a lot of bad habits to the game .. I do not like to play, there is usually governed by luck ..
People play free rolls way differently then they do their normal game. As the no risk scenario of a free roll allows people to try new ideas or strategies or even gives them a chance to try straight up donk moves and try to scare a cheap hit because it didn't cost them anything.
However, the things to also learn is that the ones that will stick around deal with all of it for free money play each other constantly. We know each other's play, and if we don't recognize you, we will assume you're a freeroll donk. Accusing us of collusion only supports this. We also have plenty of n00bs show up and disappear without putting any time into the site, so you'll have to forgive us for not taking you seriously. There are usually at least a few that are playing nice, more than you would realize on first glance.
^^^^^ What he said
I never softplay I once three bet bluffed my grandma at a family poker trny at xmas then I had to show the bluff she was PISSED
diff not me i aint got no friends at no poker table and especially not a damn po fr lmao
That's how the final tables are played on this site get use to it!
I haven't noticed anything like that, I have seen really tight final tables but nothing that made me think people were working together.
I don't know anyone's online screenname. But I still wouldn't do it. seems like a wrong thing to do and i don't see how u can be sure it even helps u guys.
i think, unfortunately, you are a bit paranoid. playing for pennies here.
They damn sure do..I quit some months ago because of this.
hell no. especially the mods. thats one thing we dont do.
Listen it's either softplay or shove freeforall based off my experience. Ft is the only exception I suppose.
if poker is a sport, then collusions were involved. no I in team. I believe your allegations. don't know who was at the table, would be really hilarious if I was there. just don't get bored, remember when you kill the whole table you are one against an army.
fuck em up
I would believe it happens and it happens to you. I would. I mean, you walk around the streets are all people fair every minute of your life? answer is NO. people are out doing what is called hustling. its called hustling because whatever they can get from you for anything your after.
I would believe collusion is there. you have to understand, that is what makes poker hard. nothing else.
there is far to much collusion going on on online poker now. There is a massive ring on seals of serious colluders yet they attract more and more players every week.
I usually play for all the chips early or forget about it lol
Thats the problem with freerolls!! Everyone can just shove all the tiem bc they dont care!