2 hours into the $5.50 $3500. i get QQ after a loose players open discuss.

Game started at: 2014/3/16 21:10:11
Game ID: 264117118 125/250 BIG10 - $3,500 GTD, Table 4 (Hold'em)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: kraftsingle (12962).
Seat 3: anderstello (3295).
Seat 4: Spewtard12 (4925).
Seat 5: logcabin (11479).
Seat 6: DavidsonBeast (18713).
Seat 7: squ1d3OO (11321).
Seat 9: Cellar door (6215).
Player kraftsingle ante (25)
Player anderstello ante (25)
Player Spewtard12 ante (25)
Player logcabin ante (25)
Player DavidsonBeast ante (25)
Player squ1d3OO ante (25)
Player Cellar door ante (25)
Player kraftsingle has small blind (125)
Player anderstello has big blind (250)
Player kraftsingle received a card.
Player kraftsingle received a card.
Player anderstello received a card.
Player anderstello received a card.
Player Spewtard12 received a card.
Player Spewtard12 received a card.
Player logcabin received a card.
Player logcabin received a card.
Player DavidsonBeast received a card.
Player DavidsonBeast received a card.
Player squ1d3OO received card: [Qd]
Player squ1d3OO received card: [Qh]
Player Cellar door received a card.
Player Cellar door received a card.
Player Spewtard12 raises (500)
Player logcabin folds
Player DavidsonBeast folds
Player squ1d3OO raises (1450)
Player Cellar door allin (6190)
Player kraftsingle allin (12812)
Player anderstello folds
Player Spewtard12 allin (4400)
Player squ1d3OO??????

i dont see the rest of hand but spewtard is rigged

i didnt post the whole hand. I want discussion on what you all would do in this spot. Spewtard12 is pretty bad.

Well pushing all in after a 3bet and than 2 allins before you, AQ, AK possible, on has a decent pocket pair... Depends on how they play and you know what they would call or all in with, thats based on your skills and tells, me personally I would have folded, Because any A in their hand would have dominated. so do you wanna get beat by an A4 off suit vs QQ, save it for another day let the QQ go

Any time you get multiple RR and all ins QQ goes in the muck unless you are SS and desperate. It hurts, but your equity is still 30% or less in a multiway shoved pot. It is one of the sad realities of freeroll poker that position and situation are more important than your cards. I would only call KK+ (and not like it).

I have extensive notes on both Cellar Door and Spewtard12, the other player in the hand i had no notes on but seemed pretty donkish

my notes on Cellar Door are that he is a very tight aggressive and solid player.

because of my notes on him, i folded



Game started at: 2014/3/16 21:10:11
Game ID: 264117118 125/250 BIG10 - $3,500 GTD, Table 4 (Hold'em)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: kraftsingle (12962).
Seat 3: anderstello (3295).
Seat 4: Spewtard12 (4925).
Seat 5: logcabin (11479).
Seat 6: DavidsonBeast (18713).
Seat 7: squ1d3OO (11321).
Seat 9: Cellar door (6215).
Player kraftsingle ante (25)
Player anderstello ante (25)
Player Spewtard12 ante (25)
Player logcabin ante (25)
Player DavidsonBeast ante (25)
Player squ1d3OO ante (25)
Player Cellar door ante (25)
Player kraftsingle has small blind (125)
Player anderstello has big blind (250)
Player kraftsingle received a card.
Player kraftsingle received a card.
Player anderstello received a card.
Player anderstello received a card.
Player Spewtard12 received a card.
Player Spewtard12 received a card.
Player logcabin received a card.
Player logcabin received a card.
Player DavidsonBeast received a card.
Player DavidsonBeast received a card.
Player squ1d3OO received card: [Qd]
Player squ1d3OO received card: [Qh]
Player Cellar door received a card.
Player Cellar door received a card.
Player Spewtard12 raises (500)
Player logcabin folds
Player DavidsonBeast folds
Player squ1d3OO raises (1450)
Player Cellar door allin (6190)
Player kraftsingle allin (12812)
Player anderstello folds
Player Spewtard12 allin (4400)
Player squ1d3OO folds
Uncalled bet (6747) returned to kraftsingle
*** FLOP ***: [2c 9d 8c]
*** TURN ***: [2c 9d 8c] [7c]
*** RIVER ***: [2c 9d 8c 7c] [2d]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 19155. Rake 0
Board: [2c 9d 8c 7c 2d]
Player kraftsingle shows: One pair of 2s [Kd Ah]. Bets: 6215. Collects: 0. Loses: 6215.
Player anderstello does not show cards.Bets: 275. Collects: 0. Loses: 275.
Player Spewtard12 shows: One pair of 2s [Jc Kh]. Bets: 4925. Collects: 0. Loses: 4925.
Player logcabin does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player DavidsonBeast does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player squ1d3OO does not show cards.Bets: 1475. Collects: 0. Loses: 1475.
*Player Cellar door shows: Flush, A high [Ac Kc]. Bets: 6215. Collects: 19155. Wins: 12940.
Game ended at: 2014/3/16 21:11:7

spewtard is horrible. i was playing with him in the 1200gtd mega last week n i opened pot with 88. 1 caller n spewtard shoves 13k putting me all in. i think about it forever n decide im calling. other guy calls with 55. spewtard has 9 10 n gets lucky as hell on turn hitting 9. he only has 4k though in this pot. hes not the worry. my opinion is fold unless you got a read on the guy shoving 12k. most likely youre racing vs AK or he has a PP also. like i said though i fold unless i have a read. no need to put em in there unless youre sure youre ahead

I ship it, see what happenz, .....yeh, prolly no help

all in shove in the donks face win or loose probally has Q10 off lol

gl hopefully you can win $15! this will change you r life for ever!

I would probably shove there, knowing Cellar Door and Kraft are shoving light there, you are more than likely going to win a sidepot if Spewtard had a real hand there.

like it was mentioned earlier. in big field tournaments position and game flow dynamics are key more so than your actual holdings.

good fold, qq is a lot easier to fold in that spot then KK. Any ak and your still slipping as if it were 10's or Jacks

This is a tough situation. But Unless you don't care about the monetary investment, or the time investment for that matter, or are extremely short stacked you gotta muck it. It's painful I know, but not as painful as calling and getting cracked by 1 of 3 inferior hands.

I would shove QQ and hope that they have a small pocket pair or the flop comes in your favor. QQ are pretty solid and but with 3 people allin, i'd say there's at least one ace ready to pop. However, you obviously did a safe call since the flush hit.

Squid what was the cards on the board? What did Spewtard have? Did you lose or win the hand?

If I were in this situation, without any knowledge of the players, I would probably fold if all of the players had me covered. Unless, I have less than 15 blinds and we we're not on top of the money or already at the final table and I stand to go up a level or two.

Scared money make no money.

Its probably a good idea to lay the Q Q down in this spot. Its just going to hurt when two people got A rag and another with 8 8 lol.

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Originally Posted by Musicmannn

Any time you get multiple RR and all ins QQ goes in the muck unless you are SS and desperate. It hurts, but your equity is still 30% or less in a multiway shoved pot. It is one of the sad realities of freeroll poker that position and situation are more important than your cards. I would only call KK+ (and not like it).

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really good said, it hurts but would fold too, to many rises and allins before you = mutliway shoved pot and in this kind of pots you don't want to participate unless you have AA/maybe KK

they are already some allins and QQ is just not as good as you may think in this hand.muck it and play the next hand.unless your ss then i would go for it because Qs like hittin on the board alot of the time i've saw it to many times to just muck it if i'm SS but if i had big money i would let it go and get to the next hand

reise end rereis its fold are all ...that depends have well you now players