Starting to run some Math on ACR

I began playing ACR about a month ago. It started out just fine, but in the last two weeks I can't help but notice that there is an abnormally high anomoly percentage! I have decided to run some numbers on ACR. Over the course of the next 500 games I will compile all statistics and run them through multiple analysis. Maybe its just my imagination, but at first glance they appear to have similiar characteristics that "Absolute" displayed during its cheating scandal. The only difference, is that this seems to be group driven(multiple players) I have a list of players which I will share with everyone if I feel I have enough proof to the fact.

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Originally Posted by StackSnack

I began playing ACR about a month ago. It started out just fine, but in the last two weeks I can't help but notice that there is an abnormally high anomoly percentage! I have decided to run some numbers on ACR. Over the course of the next 500 games I will compile all statistics and run them through multiple analysis. Maybe its just my imagination, but at first glance they appear to have similiar characteristics that "Absolute" displayed during its cheating scandal. The only difference, is that this seems to be group driven(multiple players) I have a list of players which I will share with everyone if I feel I have enough proof to the fact.

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Lol can't wait for this... Popcorn is ready

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Originally Posted by StackSnack

I began playing ACR about a month ago. It started out just fine, but in the last two weeks ...

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so 2 weeks it was fine and 2 weeks it was bad ... I believe the word you are looking for is "variance"

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Originally Posted by Mpettit2

Lol can't wait for this... Popcorn is ready

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pretty much ...
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but in all seriousness ... some stats would be nice ... and pretty much unprecedented around here

Online poker rooms cannot be rigged, they would be busted and besides, somebody has to win, its always the providers, if they do it right they dont need to rig.

ok this will be good, bring the numbers and let the forum break it down for you...lmao

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Originally Posted by Mpettit2

Lol can't wait for this... Popcorn is ready

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the heck with popcorn, I got a keg of beer for this :)

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Originally Posted by Drywallman3

the heck with popcorn, I got a keg of beer for this :)

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I'm in.... mmmmm beer.

what is acr?anyone can explain it to me?

Americas Card Room stand for ACR how simple is that, dunno I don't get why people should cheating.

Some1 the other day said the client is rigged, lol.

What kind of life woul Zab haev if he woke up each morning and decided to screw with some1's head who/when trying to watch a game.

I LOVE watching the pros on T.V. play and wouldmn't feel right if I somehow could make them lose without on whim. 1.A sudden desire or change of mind, esp. one that is unusual or unexplained.
2.A windlass for raising ore or water from a mine.

Anyway, if these ACR ppl don't have an ace up their sleeve and resort to uber-cheating, I doubt they'll get far in life which is why Zab will probably make more money than them (cheaters--not ACR in particualr) in the course of our lives...

No it aint the sites its the RNG's. Rng's cannot be random period. I think its been proven over and over again. Especially for anyone who has played ALOT live. Has anyone ever look at how RNG's work? They use anywhere from 50 to 100 decks, never shuffling. Just like going to a casino that has electronic poker tables its nowhere close to live cards being dealt. Way too much variance!! Pros dont do well online and good online players dont do well live... RNG's are set for max action... And as long as the KGC( joke ass company) is behind license and audits of the rng's you can bet variance will always be high.

I am not accusing the site of being rigged. I have posted facts on this in other threads. What I am saying, is that I do believe there are other forces at work. If you are naive to this fact, then that is your misfortune. I graduated M.I.T. Class of 2004, so be a smart azz all you want, I will be happy to post my Creds. I will be throwing many analysis and theories out there during my stay here, and will be happy for anyone to contest them.

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Originally Posted by StackSnack

I am not accusing the site of being rigged. I have posted facts on this in other threads. What I am saying, is that I do believe there are other forces at work. If you are naive to this fact, then that is your misfortune. I graduated M.I.T. Class of 2004, so be a smart azz all you want, I will be happy to post my Creds. I will be throwing many analysis and theories out there during my stay here, and will be happy for anyone to contest them.

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So if you're not saying it's rigged... what exactly are you attempting to show with this experiment of yours?

StackSnack...what you are worried about is player collusion...the never ending problem with online, or come to that, live, play. Collusion is quite common in some rooms but does slowly get caught and the player group punished.....keep us updated.

I don't see anything wrong with ACR or any of the other sites either.

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Originally Posted by abwil2

Has anyone ever look at how RNG's work? They use anywhere from 50 to 100 decks, never shuffling.

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Where do you get your information from? Do a little bit of homework first.

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Originally Posted by abwil2

Pros dont do well online and good online players dont do well live...

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This is false.

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Originally Posted by MrDignified

StackSnack...what you are worried about is player collusion...the never ending problem with online, or come to that, live, play. Collusion is quite common in some rooms but does slowly get caught and the player group punished.....keep us updated.

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Very true. And collusion is much more likely on a site with very little traffic, such as ACR.

Online poker rooms cannot be rigged, they would be busted and besides, somebody has to win, its always the providers, if they do it right they dont need to rig. lol

No sites are rigged.

Maybe the casino games are?

Sometimes it seems that people know the board before the flop comes out. I mean when someone UTG goes all in with 20BB's with 10 3 and makes 10's full of 3's it seems a little odd, more so when it busts my AA or KK

I hope the results bring you and others peace of mind, and perhaps get some riggers to shush for a while.

@LASjay

I just took 3rd in a MTT.. had 20x bb all in'd a/7 and got called by 7/4 and lost. I don't call the site rigged, I call the players morons and when morons populate a site crazy shit happens. took 3rd for $36 in $300 guarantee l0l.

@singer that's a bad beat for sure, don't know if I would shove 20BB with A7, but then again I'm a nit.

I think sometimes we're shocked that people can be that stupid and that lucky at the same time.

I don't know as much as you guy's do but why would a poker site rig games when they make their $$ on the rake.Have there been sites that have been caught rigging games?

nice post.

very interesting.. nice post. :D

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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk

Sometimes it seems that people know the board before the flop comes out. I mean when someone UTG goes all in with 20BB's with 10 3 and makes 10's full of 3's it seems a little odd, more so when it busts my AA or KK

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Lol at people knowing flop before it comes out!

Pros dont do well online and good online players dont do well live...

This is false!

Looking Forward to the results!

ACR just seems to have strange cards after the flop.

1 or 2 outs seem to win quite often.

But then, I seem to be at my unluckiest every time I play there.

Good luck with your research.

popcorn and beer i love this conbination:)