Just registered for the 3.30 R/A tid 1615704 got sent 6.60 good for entry plus one rebuy or addon. 50/50 plus stakeback 50/50 str8 up if top 3.
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Just registered for the 3.30 R/A tid 1615704 got sent 6.60 good for entry plus one rebuy or addon. 50/50 plus stakeback 50/50 str8 up if top 3.
came in 4th for 22.77 used $3 my cash for addon 22.77-3.30 = 19.47 shipping you 8 and playing the $2 6max like discussed same terms 50/50
I consider myself to be a fair guy and I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. First the deal above was something you came up with and I didn't want to waste my time to correct it since I was on a rush to head to work. Even though it was your idea you could not abide by it.
1. $8 dollar is not 50 percent of $19.47
2. I shipped you 3.3 for entry plus 3.30 for add-on/re-entry. You don't decide to add-on with your cash unless I agree to it which I didn't. I can almost guarantee that if you did not make ITM you would have said it was my cash. To add to this you didn't even show prove of an add-on.
3. You also did not make top 3 on tournament above. So to go off your split breakdown I should have received $14.68 or at least $11.38 that is if you truly made an add-on with your money.
4. You then went to play 2 more tournaments, a $2.20 and 1.10 entry. If you were truthful then you lost the $2.20 and made $3.90 on the $1.10 entry. You then message me and said you will enter another tourney with the 3.90 but after a few days waiting for you to update me you could not. I specifically told you to message me or post TID and bust hand but I never got those. All you wanted was more cash for staking.
5. And now you are sending me multiple messages asking what went wrong and telling me that you made me money each time I staked you. If you have made me money each time you were staked then why haven't I been sent my share? I have only received $8 dollars which you have shorted me on.
6. I would rather lose money because someone lost every tournament I staked them on than to someone short changing me.
I didn't want to post this here but since anyone with a little brain can see thru the holes I didn't see the point of keeping it private. I've been told by others to expose it as well.
Excuse my poor grammar, English is my second language I'm a dirty Filipino but at least I have a little integrity.
I sent u the money I owed you and you told me to keep u updated by yahoo n which I did. You are the one who needs to respond to messages. I responded to you and kept logging updates ive ran for u twice and ive won both times n xfered money both times we agreed on me running the other tourneys on yahoo if I cashed . But im not here to argue gl on everything you do so long
I guarantee u only sent me $8. And like I said you shorted me. It's basic math. My financial history on bcp only shows one transfer from you. You can proof otherwise by showing a pic of your transfer here.
I should also say that I have yahoo messenger installed on my phone that's how a girl and I keep in touch. I asked you to update me and you never did update me on the outcome of the tournament. It does not make sense for me to comment badly about you if your a good horse but I think all you care about is getting freerolled. Another player can verify that I was giving you some time to come clean but you never did. The only messages I got from you was a request for more staking.
ryangray420 either you fix this or I will.
daaab671 did Ryan pay what he owes you?
I paid him 8$ and ran 2 other tourneys the 2$ 6max and $1 mtt he was mad cuz I used my money for addon and took it off top. I offered to give him the $3 back but he said don't worry just don't plan on getting staked again.
50/50 plus stakeback (since he was not in top 3) <even if in top three that is a terrible deal>
Anyway, a proper split is not made here, even if he takes the $3 back for an extra add-on, and plays another $3.30 in MTTs
First off the staker gets the $6.60 back right off the top of $22.77, then the 50/50 split if after that (22.77-6.60=16.17) 50% of 16.17=8.09 -- so proper payment should be 8.09 + 6.60= $14.69
Now if they had some other agreement to play another 3.30 well that would make payment 11.69. The fact the guy does not show proof of any rebuy/addon is troubling and a common thing to do. This guy has experience in staking so there is zero excuse for this.
If you can't be trusted for $6 in stakes, how can you do a bigger deal?
As far as the guy not wanting the money, it is obvious he is perturbed, you should send what is owed immediately. If there was not a clear understanding that you were going to play another $3 in MTTs, you should pay that back also.
it was agreed to run others we just didn't mention addon but we talked he was at work we spoke on yahoo messenger
Ryan. If you read your first post here it should be clear that I sent you a entr?e fee with option for rebuy/addon. You keep mentioning yahoo messenger put you cant seem to post proof of those. I use yahoo messenger a lot but at the time you message me I was at work and so all those messages are on my cell not computer. If I can figure out to download them I will post. But the thing is if you truly are sincere you should be proving me wrong not me trying to prove your guilt.
I am new on staking and because of your dishonest behavior and another player I am not sure if I should continue.
In regards to yahoo messenger here is our conversation from the time I accepted your request to last message. Everything is as accurate to the grammer as shown on my yahoo messenger history.
APRIL 22 11:26AM
Contact Request Sent
Contact Request Accepted
APR 22 11:26AM
YOU: Out of $1 got screwed AA vs K10 10 on flop K river
APR 22 12:33PM
YOU: I sent you 8
APR 22 1:13PM
ME: k
(YOU NEVER UPDATED ME ON OTHER TOURNY)
APR 23 8:26AM
YOU: Whats up
APR 23 8;47AM
ME: Sorry I was gonna take a day off but kept getting calls to do some work
YOU: Cool no tourneys til later
YOU: I was trying to do the 500grt
YOU: trying to do 500grt and $2 6max
YOU: was u taking a day of from staking or working
ME: I am already on the road
YOU: Cool
ME: Work, been working the last 11 days 10plus hrs a day
YOU: How long u gotta work today
ME: Probably till 7 tonight
ME: well here on job site. gotta do my estimate for the work
YOU: dam that sucks u want in on 500grt I got some in my account if you wanna xfer later
YOU: I'll give updates (NO UPDATES GIVEN
APR 23 9:31APM
ME: Sure (NO MESSAGES FROM YOU) AFTER THIS)
Besides yahoo messenger you sent me a lot of messages on PO chat requesting a stake and offcourse I ignored you.
Once again I don't care much of getting any money from you. It is the risk of me trusting and staking. The fact that you continue to say its all me made me realize that I should warn the community about you. offcourse U will just open another account and go on doing the same thing but at least people are aware that there are dishonest people here.
No he haven't. I don't care receiving any back from him. I'm only bringing this out to light because technically the guy is accusing me of being a liar. I accept the loses its, I only hope to weed out this community of dishonest people to make it safer for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zab
Don't you dare let him rip you off and keep the money unless you truly think he deserves it. But that is your business. But if you do not demand what is right, you will allow him to steal from others.Quote:
Originally Posted by daaab671
Okay goodQuote:
Originally Posted by ryangray420
I may have been in the wrong for using my money for addon and it wasn't discussed I just used my opinion and thought only way I could be in the running to win this tourney and stay at avg stack is to addon. My bad at that I never once said u was dishonest but I did give u updates via yahoo messenger im on a netbook and no way of screen shots or I dunno how to. Never tried to rip anyone off and im not a dishonest player im sorry if you believe that.
Saying you use your money for addon is only the tip of it because you could have said it was my money if you didn't make it in the money. If you told me that you did an add on with your money the moment you did it would have been different. You waited until the game was over and decided to tell me it was your cash that you did an addon with. Again the $8 that you sent me was close to what my share would have been.
You played another tourny and minimum cashed for 3.90 which you said you will run on other tournies which you never updated me as I requested TID as well as outcomes. Only messages I got from the following day was ur wish to get freerolled once again since you cashed 3 for 3 for me. if this is true then you still owe me share from 2 other tournaments to include what you shorted of that $8 bucks you sent. But like I said I don't want any money back I am just upset that you think I'm making up stuff as if I have somthing to gain by doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zab