Borgata casino lawsuit: Gambler cheated, won $9.6M
Looks like good ole phils been cheating at baccarat rofl.
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Borgata casino lawsuit: Gambler cheated, won $9.6M
Looks like good ole phils been cheating at baccarat rofl.
leave the man alone damn casinos trying to get back at ivery when he is crushing them and running well boo the casinos
amen just thought it was funny them trying to sue him, not like they don't make that money back faster then they can bat an eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipItSA1
Ivey is a lucky dude, his ex wife just got married so he's not going to paid 180,000 dollars per month to his ex wife anymore.
How exactly do you cheat at baccarat. And the casino pay and note want to she to get off back
That's funny that a chick can get paid 180000 a month just for having been with a professional poker player
Wowo didn't see this coming... Wait maybe I did. gl ivey!
I read that yesterday, but at the end it sounded more like the card manuf. was being sued... Ivey was playin the game with some help from his friends.
oh boy ivey getting sued and going broke, dude need to slow down thats all im a saying...i wish him well though but he has a bad crap obsession from what peeps and my brother says who a host at the beliago
Ivey probably has lots of lawsuits and people go after him and dont want to pay him.
actually. that story is all wrong. He is suing a casino on europe. In which he won 9.6 million and they wouldn't pay him.
no, he sued the casino, but this is another incident they are talking about. SO YOU ARE WRONG.
Greed always greed. Whether he can read a defect on a card or not isnt his fault the casino chose those cards.
Casino cheat people out of their money everyday. why cant we sue them?
Ivey = Monster
Guy runs well in life also
Guy found a flaw in the system......................I dont think the casino wins this one they usually lose these in court.
That is what I was thinking, when you are rich you are a target for this shit
Second place that's sued him now...sucks
I remember when this happend, didn't think they would try and sue when it was the card manufacturer that was at fault for the flaw but I have learned never to bet against Phil ivey lol
can someone post a link to this story.
uuuummmmm very first post in the thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by greengiant
its same thing he had a prob with at the casino in england and why they didnt pay him yet .. its interesting story,,,,, has to do with reading card edges,, they use for the cards in baccarat...only in the the england casino,, he admitted to using that "technique" but feels he shd get paid anyways.... in this borgate one,,, he hasnt quite admittted to using the same card edging technique again...... so we see what happpesn now lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gametime74
lmao ivey got the banhammer haha...
id like to learn how to play baccarat
That's like playing holdem at a casino and having a messed up card where you can tell what it is, but the dealer keeps using that deck. It's not Iveys fault and he did nothing wrong, pay the man.
I understand that it was a defect in the cards, but he's far from innocent. He knew what he was doing. While I don't know if I would classify it entirely as cheating, it was certainly not honorable.
It's the dealers job to spot these things and switch decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by HopsnBarley28
Read the article. The card borders were bad and the cards were arranged (with the dealers help) so Ivey would know if good or bad cards were coming out. Sounds like cheating to me.
exactly y they r trying to get money back from him, bc ivey pwns em! wouldnt they know if he was cheating? like really? cmon... w those high stakes tooQuote:
Originally Posted by ShipItSA1
wow good link I remember this from a while ago. I thought fer sure he would get to keep it.
thats messed up so if they made the mistake its iveys fault now? That should be on thwe casino to check themselves.
Hmm. interesting!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pDJqb9gb3b...600/Bacc+1.jpg
It should be clear that there are 2 different issues. Ivey won i believe it was 11 mil in a UK casino a while back, at the end of the night he asked them to wire him his winnings. The casino only sent him his original 1 mil buy in and said that they were investigating. It wasn't until much later, after looking though hours of security footage, that they accused him on edge sorting. I feel that it is worth mentioning that the person he was playing with is banned from several casinos world wide. here is a link to a story about the first incident. Phil Ivey: Gambler won ?7.8m by 'reading' the back of cards | Mail Online
I guess the real question is if edge sorting is cheating. I mean it is information that any player can use, so he certainly does not have an unfair advantage over other players, outside of the skill of being able to pick up on the imperfections on the cards. He isn't marking the cards himself. In my opinion all he is doing is taking advantage of all the information possible, same as a card counter and card counting isn't considered cheating. The goal of a player VS house game is obviously to beat the house, why should a player not be able to use all the legally gained information at his disposal? What if while playing black jack the dealer makes a mistake and accidentally flips his bottom card somehow, is the hand dead? if not, and a player hits his 19 because the dealer has 20, is it cheating if he spikes the 2 and wins? It is the same premise, the house made a mistake and used cards that gave the player an advantage.
I dont know why poker playing pros play casino games ..seems to be a waste of your grinding skills to just go bet it on blackjack e.t.c..
Probably for variety. And if you can win 11 million in one night doing it, that's far better than you can generally win a poker!Quote:
Originally Posted by easyweight
True but you can lose out the Same way too
on the news this morning about the bogota casino he is in trouble
Ivey is the man long live King Ivey!
he will win this case
:) I like that ur amused ...life happens hahaha