Daniel's world of fun

In the wake of Joe Hachem's recent comments that the game of poker is dying, Daniel Negreanu has penned a post entitled: "My Vision for the Poker World".

Taking the stance that the key to poker's success is a "collective effort", Daniel suggests that pro players should engage in a symbiotic relationship with their goals and the "greater good" of the game.

Essentially, Daniel envisions an ecosystem whereby the game is "fun first and a competitive endeavour second."

Moreover, he believes poker should be "a world where players think about what's best for everyone first, understanding that in the end they will benefit from that as well."

Daniel certainly has a point when it comes to making the game more attractive for recreational players; however, some will likely feel this is an impossible dream when money is on the line.

I like Daniel and I think that response fits his personality. Hachem on the other hand, I have little respect for, and honestly if he were to play at a limit I could afford I don't think I would avoid him. I think he is a very good player, but little more. And as far as his opinion of the game of poker dying, tell him to go talk to the Texas Dolly, or even Hellmuth. Poker is thriving. And will not die until cards no longer exist.

he does have that side to him that is likeable and easy to get along with....1 remarkable player no questions asked.....hence "kidpoker" been playing with all the big names since day 1 .....now for hachem i dont care for him to much imo.....another good player but not in dn league......1 thing i cant forget and i believe he woulda did it if no1 was watching......when he was in a hand with some1 in a hs game and took his card and slid it underneath the other persons card to pretend to show it.....just the way he did that and kinda pointed it up rubbed me wrong way....something sneaky about em

i love daniel!! he has an awesome approach to life, just not sure if it fits in to the big bucks of poker!!

We need another moneymaker WSOP!

Daniel Negreanu is the most funniest person on 'Poker After Dark' but while he plays a strong game, he does play good, but on some hands where he bluffs he makes the people fold their 100% win hand, I like that for how he plays but I perfer Doyle Brunson or Phil Ivey as my main 2 idols in the game, aswell as Phil Gee, JC Tran, and a lot of other strong players @ World Series @ ESPN

Daniel's head is in the clouds, unfortunately. Poker is always going to be money first, people figuring out that it doesn't have to be at the expense of the community is the key.

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he does have that side to him that is likeable and easy to get along with....1 remarkable player no questions asked.....hence "kidpoker" been playing with all the big names since day 1 .....now for hachem i dont care for him to much imo.....another good player but not in dn league......1 thing i cant forget and i believe he woulda did it if no1 was watching......when he was in a hand with some1 in a hs game and took his card and slid it underneath the other persons card to pretend to show it.....just the way he did that and kinda pointed it up rubbed me wrong way....something sneaky about em

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I could be wrong about this, but I believe he also tipped so poorly after he won the wsop main event that they instituted a min tip the next year.

don't really know anything about hachem but maybe australians aren't used to tipping.

Never been a big fan of Joe Hachem. I heard Daniel making fun of his "One Time" chants when all in.

poker will never die people plain and simple

Here's the interview with Hachem, in case anyone is interested:
https://www.bluff.com/news/joe-hache...-legacy-51589/

Basically, he's an idealist - he's one of those people who think that everyone should play poker only for the love of the game, not for the money. I get what he's saying, but the reality is that, like in every area of life, poker players are a spectrum, not just either players or money-grubbers. Because his perspective indicates to him that many young players are not as idealistic as he is, he sees that the game (as he sees the game) is dying.

I like his approach, but it seems that he wears blinkers if he can't see that there are other ways to approach the game.

trust Daniel all the way joe knows shit. Whens the last time he won anything.

Daniel is one of the best role models for any new poker player to follow IMO

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Here's the interview with Hachem, in case anyone is interested:
https://www.bluff.com/news/joe-hache...-legacy-51589/

Basically, he's an idealist - he's one of those people who think that everyone should play poker only for the love of the game, not for the money. I get what he's saying, but the reality is that, like in every area of life, poker players are a spectrum, not just either players or money-grubbers. Because his perspective indicates to him that many young players are not as idealistic as he is, he sees that the game (as he sees the game) is dying.

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i don't think he came across idealistic. i thought he was pretty level-headed about it. he wants poker players to hone their other skills to keep the game good and the recreational players coming back. when i go to the casino and play the 1/2 nl games, the regular players are the most boring anti-social players ever. the actually make poker not fun to play and that's what my friends say. recreational players play for fun but pros and wannabe pros drive them away with their personalities.

I'm sure Daniel just wants to make the fish feel more comftorable. He makes good points also.

joe is not the only one saying that poker is dying. i believe that this due to the falling off of the top prize in the WSOP. when moneymaker won in 2003(2.5 M), there was a massive surge in the amount of people playing both brick & mortar and online. i believe this peaked in 2006 with jamie gold(12 M). since then the top prize has fallen back to and is staying steady at over 8 million. so probably some have sought other forms of entertainment. but, the ones who have moved on, were, mostly the "travel channel experts", and that is okay. me, i have been playing since January 1957. i was 8 years old and the son of one of my fathers friends who was 12, taught me the rank of hands. my poker playing will die when i do.

uhmmm u are right at last, when money is at line, you dont know ;(

hhahahaha it defintley aint 03 no more. poker players gotta move on from that shit.

midaswell thats it if your a true poker player its not how much the payouts are the just the thrill of playing cards and i'll be playing til i die as well

hahaha...you said it bro

I wish there was another MoneyMaker Movement... maybe when the whole US gets online poker again?

Danielz only problem is his diet, thatz just wierd

I like Daniels replies poker is up and coming and need to be respected as a sport of skill

yea thats all good when u have the money to do it like that but when ur tryin to get that first big score and then it would be fun to not really care about a 3500 $ buy-in

Daniel who?

I have always like Daniel, hes always jovial and slaphappy at the table, but I disagree with his idea here.

i used to have a friend name daniels. Gosh he was ugly as a mule.

Dissociating yourself from the money also helps you play better as well. :)

So there I was, posting on forums, and couldn't figure out what this one is about. So hiiiiii :)

All he needs to do then is play against himself in his own poker world. Give me ur chips dude and get with all that PC babble about eco- this and collect MY NUTZ that you follow?

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So there I was, posting on forums, and couldn't figure out what this one is about. So hiiiiii :)

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Danielis very different.. i love him. not surprised at all

I think I would like to play him sammy farhar and annie duke at the same time.

The problem with poker today in my opinion is that there are far more good to great players than people playing it with the same mind set as its just like keno...put you money in after each card like its what your supposed to do....not really having a clue...in the last 10-15 yrs the word has got out and people actually have a clue....that is what makes people wonder as good players vs good players makes profitability much harder to envision and realize...at some point you realize no matter how well you learn the game consistently winning can prove to be more and more of a challenge as odd as that may sound....having strings on a bankroll that is not what it once was is also a tough scenario...scared money seems to lose more often...weird....