BEWARE - I was almost just scammed by NSS1995

He posted in the chat earlier saying he was looking for lock/acr/juicy and had points to trade, a little later on in the night I needed some points so we negotiated out a price of 4k points/$10.92 on lock. I thought something was a bit fishy because he kept asking me to hurry up, send the money, hurry.

Well as soon as i asked him to put the points in escrow, he says "Oh i only have 1k points now, im going to buy points in the morning ill give you the rest then" WTF???? why was he trying to trade points for poker money if he doesnt have points? and if he is going to "buy points in the morning" why wouldnt he just deposit with that money?

Here is the chat log... i know there is a lot of back and fourth on the price but you can see for yourself

NSS1995: hi
NSS1995: so how much money do u got for trade?
Me: not a lot really
Me: lock
Me: like less than 10 bucks
Me: i think i might just keep it, for me to want to do it id want more than would be worth it for you id think
Me: $1/610 points up to $7 bucks, i know its a lot but i kinda want my lock money.
Me: brb
NSS1995: ok thx
Me: back
NSS1995: i can get from zab for cheaper lol but thx
Me: lol i didnt really think about that, i guess i was thinking you may have wanted it now and hes not online..
Me: im new here lol
Me: hey
NSS1995: Yea?
Me: want to do $5 for 2500
NSS1995: lol. i can do 1800 and we can deal right now
Me: damn lol i thought 500 per buck was pretty standard
NSS1995: let me know im going to sleep in a few min
Me: 2k
Me: lets do it
Me: lol i just lost 3500 in the damn client doing flips with bbno want to get it back
NSS1995: What site is it for?? Juicy or Lock??
Me: Lock
NSS1995: Thats y im trying to help u out
NSS1995: lets do 1800 and its a deal
NSS1995: do u got more money?
Me: i have $10
Me: 4k for 10
Me: i have $10.92
NSS1995: Send me all the 3k right now
NSS1995: $10.92 for 3k
Me: lol f*** that
NSS1995: Set it up right now im sleepy almost
Me: you gotta be kidding me lol
Me: f*** off $10.92 for 3k
Me: lol
NSS1995: how much??
NSS1995: WTF u need help and im trying
Me: you just said 1800 for $5 and then went to $10.92 for 3k????????
NSS1995: how much can u do? dam f```in calm down if u want points
Me: why would i get less per dollar selling you more
NSS1995: Can u tell me how much u want?
Me: its not like its not helping you too, you were asking for lock money
Me: 4k for $10.92 i think is fair
Me: $10.92 through zab is like 5500-5600
Me: 4k is more than fair
NSS1995: I can do 3650 and its a deal. Send me the money
NSS1995: because we were doing $5 for 1800
Me: no we werent
NSS1995: so 3650 sounds good for $10.92
NSS1995: Deal?
Me: we were not doing $5 for 1800
Me: lol
NSS1995: lol thats how much i was dealing for... tell me quick if u want to make the deal, like i said i got to hit the bed soon lol
Me: its 540 per dollar on the site, ill give it to you for 460 per dollar
Me: naa even less
Me: 400 per dollar
Me: if you want less than that go to bed
Me: thats a great deal for you
Me: $400 per dollar anything up to 10.92
Me: 400/$1
NSS1995: So how much for all $10.92, give me a lower price
Me: 390/$1
Me: lowest id go
Me: thats realllllllly low considering its 540/$1 on the site
NSS1995: So lets meet in the middle and do 3800 points which is a very fair deal
NSS1995: Should i give u my email?
NSS1995: Oh and Happy New Years
Me: man thats pretty low, id do 4k for the 10.92
Me: that 366/$1
NSS1995: comeon man tell me quick
NSS1995: i came up 3800 and its a deal
Me: you realize through the site 10.92 is almost 5800
Me: lol
Me: forget it man lol, yuou are way lowballing me, happy new year get some sleep
NSS1995: Do u want to make the deal or not??
Me: not for 3800
NSS1995: U want 4k??
NSS1995: Damm calm down if u want to make a deal
Me: im calm as hell
Me: why do you think imnot/
NSS1995: so deal for 4k right?
Me: sure
NSS1995: So can u send me the money right now
Me: its up in marketplace
Me: dont you have to put the points in escrow
NSS1995: I got one question, I dont got 4k on me right now, I got 1k something
Me: LOL
Me: you are kidding right
NSS1995: I can pay u the rest when i wake up, is that fine because im going to buy points
NSS1995: That cool?
NSS1995: I have been here for 2 years
Me: LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
NSS1995: So u gotta learn how to trust
Me: LOLOLOLOLOLOL
NSS1995: Gtfo and stop wasting my time
Me: WHAT??????
Me: IM WASTING YOUR TIME?????
NSS1995: go beg someone else for points
Me: you just negotiated this trade and you dont even have the points!!!!!!!!!!
Me: LOL you are so funny, you were just trying to scam me dude
Me: im posting about this
NSS1995: Because most people i make trades with i pay them later cuz they trust
Me: why the f*** would you make a trade and pay someone later?
NSS1995: WTF ur the new one here, i have been 2 years here and not had a problem once with anyone
NSS1995: Go post it
Me: are you f***ing kidding me?
NSS1995: WTF dont scam me
NSS1995: Bye
Me: scam you??
Me: how the f*** could i scam you?? i was sending first

WTF I have been on the site for 2 years, there is not one person I have scammed before so what the hell is wrong with you. I think i have to report to Zab for posting fake shit like this

im sure people who have been here just as long have scammed, the whole thing just doesnt add up, why would you negotiate with me for 20 minutes about a trade knowing you dont have the points to make the trade?

you say you were 3000 short, to buy 3000 worth of points you would have to spend $12 on trialpay You mean to tell me you were going to spend $12 on points, add it to the $2.50 or so in points you said you have, so you could trade it for $10.92 on lock????????? come the fuck on.

I was going to get my points from survey sites because i sent them emails about not getting my points, thats why i said i would pay in the morning I would get the rest to you.

But its no use to waste time with people like you

Dont worry I have reported this to Zab, your the new one here trying to scam. So its not cool to ruin a New Year like this

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Originally Posted by NSS1995

I was going to get my points from survey sites because i sent them emails about not getting my points, thats why i said i would pay in the morning I would get the rest to you.

But its no use to waste time with people like you

Dont worry I have reported this to Zab, your the new one here trying to scam. So its not cool to ruin a New Year like this

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NOOO just NOOOO this is defenitly not how it works lol....

YOU have to escrow first end of the fucking storry... and


btw icecool 500 pts is more then ok 366 pts is redic i wouldt do that but thats all up to you

yeah thats why i was bartering with him so much, but i lost 3500 in the client to bbno doing flips and i wanted to get it back so iwas gona take a hit.

You have reported me to Zab?? LOL for what??? I did nothing whatsoever. So you were going to buy points, that shit takes DAYS ususally when you email them for them to get back....

You honestly were trying to trade cash for points that you HAVENT EVEN GOTTEN YET????

Please tell me in what way was i trying to scam anyone?

I think you were banking on the fact that I am new here and thinking i would put weight on you "being here two years" who the fuck cares how long you have been here? that doesnt mean shit.

LOL at trying to trade with points you dont have, and arent even sure you are going to get...

NSS1995 - looks like you are the one in the wrong here. You don't make a trade with points you don't have. That's a loan, not a trade.

LOL heres another one, I guess all the scammers come out in the wee hours of the morning.

jerryss4444: hey icecool i got some points
jerryss4444: u sellin any money on any sites
Me: minimum transfer is $5 on lock i dont think you would have enough points would you
jerryss4444: how much u got
jerryss4444: i can pay for it right now
Me: 10.92 on lock
Me: id trade it for 4400 points
Me: which is a good deal for you, it would be 5800 buying it on the site
jerryss4444: in the market u said 4k
Me: yeah that was with NSS1995, and he was way lowballing me
Me: you wont do 4400?
jerryss4444: no i think 4000 is good
Me: how did you get 4000 points so fast
Me: when you were just asking bbno for 100
jerryss4444: i got a loan
jerryss4444: i just made 2k in client
Me: nice
Me: alright ill do 4k for $10
Me: that ok?
jerryss4444: no u said 10.92
Me: why are you begging bbno for points, but telling me you have 4k to trade?
jerryss4444: i asked him
jerryss4444: he told me somthing in the client
Me: he said just this second you were asking him for 500 points
jerryss4444: cause i heard 500 and 360
Me: sit in the client with the 4k
jerryss4444: bye
Me: ?
Me: i was saying just to show me you have it
Me: why bye?
Me: you trying to scam me too?
Me: hello??????
Me: do you want to trade???

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Originally Posted by icecool988

LOL at trying to trade with points you dont have, and arent even sure you are going to get...

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eactly and anyone who does a trade with someone like this it is there very own fault if the do get scammed

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Originally Posted by Paisleysky

NSS1995 - looks like you are the one in the wrong here. You don't make a trade with points you don't have. That's a loan, not a trade.

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I understand I was wrong in this also, but there was no point or goal for me scamming, so this post was the wrong thing. Thats what is wrong

How the hell am i scamming.... Do u even know the meaning of scamming is???? I dont wanna deal with the bullshitter like u.

dude im not so sure about you, but you were begging for points in the client chat for HOURS, "can i have 100 points can i have 100 points" and then you were asking for bbno for a 500 point loan at the EXACT same time you were asking me to trade with you.

And yes i know what scamming is.

As soon as i asked you to sit with the 4k in the client to show you had it, you said "bye" and havent responded since.

I think the chat log speaks for itself.. You wanted to do a trade with something you didnt have, how can it be defined any differently?

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Originally Posted by abwil2

I think the chat log speaks for itself.. You wanted to do a trade with something you didnt have, how can it be defined any differently?

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I understand I was wrong in that, but posting this thread was the wrong. I was not scamming, I traded with several people and payed them back later. This thread that he made was wrong. There was no intention of scamming

And i dont want to waste time replying to every reply

I'm closing this thread. If someone believes they have been scammed message zab he is the only one that can possibly work it out.

I am re-opening this thread because on review of the situation I see some things that do concern me and I think members should have this warning.
A reminder when using the marketplace do not release your points all the way until you receive what you are paying for.
I will be pming Zab with my concerns and he can decide if the thread should stay or go, as for right now I am opening it and moving it to the marketplace.

Sounds to me Like they want "CREDIT" on FAKE Poker Pointz ROFL

Ya umm that might be a gambling Problem

{grinz}

next week i might complete some surveys for 10k points any one wanna buy my hopes :) :)
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this whole deal seems screwed up. 1st of all nss shouldnt be making deals with points he does not have, unless he tells a person up front he will be paying them later. not bartering for half hour and then oh yeah i only have 1k. gtfo with that shit dude. 2nd icecool if someone sees you have an offer for 4k up and are sending 10.92 you should honor that offer. no haggling over it. if you were gonna do the deal with 1 person why not the other??? take it out of marketplace immediately upon 1st deal going bad and you wouldnt have had the problem with jerry.and 3rd jerry its kinda fishy you disappear when he asks you to sit with 4k. i think id pass on a trade with you.




final thought here is im in total agreement with pooffy here. if you are gonna do a market trade with someone, simple protocol here is 1 the person with the points escrows them. 2 the person trading the poker money then sends the money once he sees points are escrowed. then 3 once the person with the points recieves his poker money or whatever he traded for he releases the points. very simple ppl

Thank you. I was kinda worried that it got locked so quickly, especially before anyone really woke up and had a chance to see it the other day, but I didnt want to go against stephs call and bring it up anymore.

I was never trying to make any false accusations, just didnt want someone esle to get burned, and the fact that he was saying to ship it quick about 10 times that he had to go, and then was online for hours and hours after the incident should say volumes.

Cheers all.

NSS-

Ya you have a good reputation here as a long standing member, however, there are some things I just pointed out to you that you need to take care of that I won't post publicly.

i almost sold Nss Juicy glad i didnt

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Originally Posted by Zab

NSS-

Ya you have a good reputation here as a long standing member, however, there are some things I just pointed out to you that you need to take care of that I won't post publicly.

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Zab I just sent you the pms, and can you clear this thread out. I already told you what the issue was with some of the members here.

This is just creating some shit drama

I fail to see how Icecool not accepting his offer for like 360pts per dollar is "almost scamming", thats just turning down a trade offer.

good read lol

Yeah, i dont see anywhere where i came anywhere close to doing anything dishonorable.

I guess i should have offered jerry the same deal i had in the marketplace for the 4000, but i felt like i was getting lowballed, so i tried to get a bit more when he messaged me.. I see he has been banned now.. big suprise.

Thanks for the info!!

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Originally Posted by icecool988

He posted in the chat earlier saying he was looking for lock/acr/juicy and had points to trade, a little later on in the night I needed some points so we negotiated out a price of 4k points/$10.92 on lock. I thought something was a bit fishy because he kept asking me to hurry up, send the money, hurry.

Well as soon as i asked him to put the points in escrow, he says "Oh i only have 1k points now, im going to buy points in the morning ill give you the rest then" WTF???? why was he trying to trade points for poker money if he doesnt have points? and if he is going to "buy points in the morning" why wouldnt he just deposit with that money?

Here is the chat log... i know there is a lot of back and fourth on the price but you can see for yourself

NSS1995: hi
NSS1995: so how much money do u got for trade?
Me: not a lot really
Me: lock

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Originally Posted by icecool988

LOL heres another one, I guess all the scammers come out in the wee hours of the morning.

jerryss4444: hey icecool i got some points
jerryss4444: u sellin any money on any sites
Me: minimum transfer is $5 on lock i dont think you would have enough points would you
jerryss4444: how much u got
jerryss4444: i can pay for it right now
Me: 10.92 on lock
Me: id trade it for 4400 points
Me: which is a good deal for you, it would be 5800 buying it on the site

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Originally Posted by Zab

NSS-

Ya you have a good reputation here as a long standing member, however, there are some things I just pointed out to you that you need to take care of that I won't post publicly.

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Yeah, I just found this damn interesting and had to make a comment. Happened a while ago, and it seems a bad trade was averted by the OP in this matter so no harm was done in the end. Yet, what OP did not know is the 2nd person to contact him, jerryss4444, was using the same IP as NSS1995 according to 'PO Background Check'. For whatever reason, background check connects this member with 8 other PO accounts. (and note 5 of his 10 positive feedbacks are from matching IP members, including several from jerryss4444)

No other reason for the post except I found it interesting...

PS - Also, Just for Kicks, why is the linked small thread interesting in relation to this subject
http://www.poker.org/forum/poker-club/deleted-quizzes/

insert picture of dead horse being beat here. lol. actually it was an interesting read. Haven't seen these members active since I have been here I don't think.

Yeah WEC I also thought that jersey and nss trying to trade the same amount on Lock was fishy, guess you figured out why. I also didn't realize how old this post was until I already started reading it.

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Originally Posted by nab76

insert picture of dead horse being beat here. lol. actually it was an interesting read. Haven't seen these members active since I have been here I don't think.

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ship it
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weeeeeeeeeeeeee, Resurrect dead threads ftw!!!!

bump

So nss is a known scammer correct?



Yall already know what needs to be done with those type.

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...surrection.jpg