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When a player is dealt two cards its their choice whether to put their money in the middle while holdin them or not, dont get mad at "bad players" who play "donk hands" just because u over play ur AK or cant fold small Pocket Pairs... Plain and simple you got outplayed by someone you think is a bad player... Maybe u should take the time u have sittinng on the rail quit complaining about some one elses play and improve your own, calling some one else a donk doesnt make u a good player...
im not sure what brought this thread on but im gonna share my opinion anyways. if i raise 4x bb with KK theres no reason anybody with a 5 6 offsuit should be in that pot, but retards here seem to call with any 2 cards. so yes you are correct in saying theyre your cards and you can play any 2 any way you wish. im also gonna say the person calling you a DONK is correct. you should not be in that pot. so many ppl are rewarded for playing poorly and its sickening. eventually those players go broke and the good players should be able to profit off the donksQuote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
100% correct
if i have u outchipped 4:1 and i wanna gamble i think 45 has good drawing potential and if it hits i will usually get most if not all of your stack and if i miss im out 4 BB's I'd say its worth the gamble sometimes
gamble then, but dont get mad if youre called a donk because thats exactly how a donk playsQuote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
i dont get mad when some one calls me a donk, usually people who are under skilled and cant look at the flaws in their game are the ones that throw the donk word around, and if a railbird calls me a donk I laugh especially when i am one who sent them to the rail
What makes calling with 56o a donk move?
Dont you know you should only be allowed to play category 1 hands ... i mean this isnt poker where its a game of variety personality and mood luck and gut feelings... its a game of just skill where AA should hold everytime just because some one raises the pot doesnt mean they have a good hand its game where people can bluff and have fun playing... even if you raise and announce you have AA before my turn of action doesnt mean you are telling the truth...
Best players in the world are all LAG. If you have the right stack and position, a LAG strat can call 56 off or whatever it was if they want. If you are that guy that has kk or aa or ak and does a little dance only to complain why you keep losing, either stay average or try to get better.
i think there is more skill involved in your post flop decisions with drawing hands or as some refer to as "donk hands" than there is in preflop play, i mean most the time most money that is usually wagered preflop is max 4BB's the real money gets put in on the turn and river
if you are playing right in terms of lag, drawing hands are far from donk. A rag however, is donk. If someone can play 56 off and be able to fold on a flop that they have top pair they are gonna beat the ppl that sleep til they get aa or kk and just assume they cant be beat.
I agree with you. However, while I don't really call anyone a donk, I have been a called a donk for picking up a better hand than them. They shove before me, I call with a better hand and win, and I'm a donk.
sharking plays any two. ask the railbirds
I play any two too. come at me bross
Wow, you really need to get this piece of condescending shit to 2p2 because that's what they do there.
yeah way too many watch cash games on TV and think thats how these "pros" play during a turny and it is not! but by all means i want the donks callin my 4 or 5xbb with trash, just not the results online gives out LOL Yes it happens live to but not as often as you dont see as many hands per hour. Ya have to know when to back off and quit betting hoping the donk will fold his measly pair. If there willing to call a preflop raise with trash they aint going to fold to any bet after they hit!
I think OP and Janish are just a little confused about what a "donk" or "donking" is. A donk calls his/her money in with an inferior hand and tries to come out on top. If your intent is to outplay your opponent postflop, thats fine but its still considered "donking" with a lesser hand. Anyone half decent wont be calling you a "donk" tho bc why correct you if you want to give my KK action w/ 56.
*the comment about pros playing donk hands beneficially made me lol
Example:
a)UTG opens 3x w/ KK. CO calls w/ 56s. Flop 789.... the CO is a "donk"
b)Daniel N (in MP) opens 3x w/ 56s. SB calls w/ A5. Flop 234... Daniel N isn't a "donk"
It does'nt happen as often in live cause they don't play those hands in live. I don't mind that beat as much as when I get a set and its beat by a bigger one 6 out of 8 x's that happened yesterday only 1 percent I tell ya urghhhhh!
Way too much name calling is how I see it. Especially in the freerolls...it's a freeroll for christ sake! What gives you the right to tell other people what cards they can and can not play?
people got there difference. :S
If you are trying to bluff amateur player, you become amateur player too.. :) Thats not my idea, but Daniel Negreanu said that :)
I try to never bluff.
Personally, if I have KK, I WANT the guy with the 56 to call, because I will usually win. If if he managed to suckout on me one hand, blame luck, and HOPE he comes back and the odds will be in your favor again so you can profit off of the "donk". I think name calling and insulting someone you consider a bad player is just stupid, because you should want him to come back. Just take notes so you can milk chips off of him the next time.
Could be wrong, but it sounds like you're trying to defend your own bad play... I don't call people names at the table or belittle them, but lets face it bad play is bad play,''even if you dress it up as gambling" .Quote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
not saying the the 4x bb scenario is this but if you price someone in to play trash hands more often than not you are going to get called. These are free rolls, you are going to see some of the most awful card play. I could care less what anyone calls me hell for laughs I will call myself a donk.
I feel the time when poker is tilting you and is no longer fun it's time for a break.
this is a great post people flip out all the time but its their choice if they think the hand is good
show me the origin of donk or donkey in poker lol, its overused and it just means the person that lost is pissed moreoften than not. Your definition would mean that someone calling with a flush draw with one card to come is a donk. They are behind and trying to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by oVITOo
I'm so sick of people playing any 2 suited cards on carbon. doesn't matter if its 2-7 or 2-9
Bluffs...lol bluffers.....
Bluff, I don't care. I'll bluff sometimes, I know I get bluffed out of decent hands now and then. The guys that make me laugh are those that think they have made the bluff of the century because they got me to lay down a decent hand by bluffing against a A K Rag flop with 7-2 on the first hand of the game. Serioulsy? You won a 120 chip pot. Good for you.
Inveriably those same guys are out of the game within a couple orbits.
me too have stopped playing for awhile because of these new players who play anything like bingo
nope i dont need to defend any cards i play... if my money is in the middle there is a reason for itQuote:
Originally Posted by wagon596
You are correct. If its the wrong price to chase or you shouldn't have seen the board give you a fd anyway, that's considered being a donk. It is overused and its mostly bad players saying it, so I don't know why it would bother anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by janish
You dont have to defend your play. Just put it out there and hope it hits ha :pQuote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
we will deposit with Neteller Card
i dont get mad when some one calls me a donk, usually people who are under skilled and cant look at the flaws in their game are the ones that throw the donk word around.
what is the best card to deposit?
yea i hate when it happens to me but love it when dont
Dont you know you should only be allowed to play category 1 hands ... i mean this isnt poker where its a game of variety personality and mood luck and gut feelings,
either stay average or try to get better