s810car and jasonv12 possibly others

ok let me first start with pokerowned is filled with people who think theyre great poker players or decent, when in fact thats just untrue. i apparently fit into that category, cause im sure running like shit right now. i could flop quads and feel like someone would hit runner runner straight flush.

that being said, as many of you probably noticed jasonv12 has been running like a god on carbon poker, so have a cpl others. also, s810car has been doing great in mtts on blackchip poker. proof is in the pudding, day in and day out, theyre both on here going deep in multiple tourneys a day.

so what i would like to see happen from both of you guys, and possibly a few others, is some coaching. ghosting of your play, skype sessions, and in general help for the community.

pokerowned should be a place for people to learn and improve their game as well as a place for people to play together and make a few dollars. why not be a help to the whole community? setup a 1 day a week skype or join me session and have players ghost you. or 1 on 1 sessions where you watch them. try to help people better understand what hands to play. when to play them. help others learn to work on timing. when to steal. bet sizing, and how to do it effectively. or any other leaks players may have in their games.

id also like to see people posting hands and having open discussions about how to play or not play certain hands.

this is just an idea, but i figure you 2 are running about the best on here right now and sharing help wouldnt hurt anyone.

either way good luck to you both and to everyone else here on the site. im sure some of you would be interested and would benefit greatly from a few sessions.

i picked the 2 players that were running good on 2 different networks as all of us dont play just 1 network. as i said just an idea, but a good one

ok well,
i dont know about jasonv but i can surly say that s8 is just another donk running extremly fine atm and thats about it...

i want both these players on my traveling team

First off good post deserves attention, That being said I wouldn't consider this as getting coaching from players that's little far fetched, I don't know any player here who is consistently winning and considered a pro player, Most of us have our ups and downs, run goods, run bad streaks online. Id online consider coaching from guys like RiggsB who isn't on this site but one of the best online players, I do think this could be helpful just to see how others play that could be useful in our own game etc. Alot of the better players here like s810car and dk12 there man fault in game is bankroll management that's a huge obstical that I still need to over come. Anyways hope this does kick in to action great idea Tommy

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Originally Posted by PokeYourFace

i want both these players on my traveling team

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BTW Tommy theres your #3 dude ^ Bovada player lol

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Originally Posted by s810car

BTW Tommy theres your #3 dude ^ Bovada player lol

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im ok with poke too. hes runs good at times. the point of all of this is there are decent players that can teach or give advice and id like to see it happen. its not coincidence that certain people get deep more often then others.

as it was said by idothisfor, you 2 are not pros, but you do have better game play them quite a few on here. you also have proven results

I wouldnt care if you wanted to ghost me and see how I play and can ask me questions and why I made such movees and or w/e you wanna ask, I dont really like to do alllow ppl to watch me, but there are few ppl on here that if they would like too, id have no problem with it anytime you wanna watch let me know, and ill gladly pop up join/me, if not thats okay, just offering it

Anyways as far as my response:

First, @ TKD55: I haven't seen enough of your play to even know if I should consider that opinion valid, which also means unless you been ghost railing without me knowing, you haven't seen enough of my play to make that statement. My record and what people see from me speaks for itself so find another bridge to lurk under.

As far as what Tommy is asking, while i have no issue discussing strategy sharing informative links, reviewing HH and giving lil advice here and there, there are certain thing I don't do, one being the join.me/ghosting sessions, while I will be able to watch others and give critique (although I do NOT give final opinion during a hand, I discuss after, all decision is made by the player), I do not run join.me sessions, ever, my own reasons which im sure can be presumed. Now I also stop at full blown coaching, as doing that requires work that would make it have to be a business deal, and as was stated, I am not a professional to where I feel I can give out the quality coaching you would deserve

So anyways, thats my 2 cents on it, I'll let Jason speak for himself, and Jaytodd obv another good candidate

Don't dismiss us as a run good. I've spent hours everyday working to improve. As much time as I spend playing, I spend MORE time working on my game constantly. It's that level of commitment required for success. Give me 3 months and if I'm still pushing strong, that'll prove it.

I'm always happy to talk poker with just about anyone. I'm not the best teacher, however, but I can try. :)

I know I am new to this site, but i do consider myself a decent poker player, and a pretty damn good omaha player. I wouldnt mind doing some coaching and discussing hands preferably any type of omaha.

Danny Chang - Poker Player Profile thats my live mtt stats ( i know it's not much cashes, but there are barely much omaha mtts in the east coast)

On a side note, s810, even though you don't ordinarily like screen sharing, would you consider doing it in a situation such as in a BCP or Carbon freeroll, where you are being paid in points (enough to cover the entry fee at the least) in order to share your screen with those that pay the points?

Same idea goes out to everyone. I don't see why you can't use the freerolls as a learning tool as well. Hell, I'd love to try my hand at one on livecam if any new players wanna join me and watch and discuss my play with me :P catching anothers mistake can be good learning too.

I think I stated this? If you were allowing BCP/Carbon freeroll watchers, I'd definitely have the rule that you cannot play in the same tournament as me, if you are watching.

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Originally Posted by Tiberiussilver

On a side note, s810, even though you don't ordinarily like screen sharing, would you consider doing it in a situation such as in a BCP or Carbon freeroll, where you are being paid in points (enough to cover the entry fee at the least) in order to share your screen with those that pay the points?

Same idea goes out to everyone. I don't see why you can't use the freerolls as a learning tool as well. Hell, I'd love to try my hand at one on livecam if any new players wanna join me and watch and discuss my play with me :P catching anothers mistake can be good learning too.

I think I stated this? If you were allowing BCP/Carbon freeroll watchers, I'd definitely have the rule that you cannot play in the same tournament as me, if you are watching.

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The freerolls are a good place to start, but there isn't a lot of time where stacks are deep and lot of deep thinking when playing against "certain" players. If you would like, I'll screen record and commentate on a bigger game on Carbon and post it to Youtube. But I'd like to do this with only one table, so probably after OPS.

I'd also recommend going on Youtube and looking up Gripsed reviews of big mtt wins from his viewers. He's probably a millionaire, yet he posts instructional poker videos and reviews of mtts. That's a great community as well and it's all free. I accredit him to a lot of my learning early on.

Also, I'd recommend finding a low variance game (like DONs or HU) or play strictly PO freerolls until you have $100 or so in your roll, just so you can avoid variance of $1.10 and $2.20 mtts. I know this sounds like a lot, but with re-entries, it takes quite a bit to play within reasonable means.

Yeah, I'm not an expert and I won't pretend to be. I've had some success, but it's not long withstanding and I don't have any major wins yet. Maybe soon, but don't think we're like pros or anything... yet. ;)

I don't think it's ever a bad ideal to get a coach to try and better your game. Plus you get to see some things u may be doing wrong or in a different light.

It depends how you approach the game, people have different styles of play... If you use a purely ABC poker+mathematical %
post flop/post turn approach the game literally plays itself because desicions are based on correct pot odds+ outs/%. That focuses less on intuition and reads... However with both combined you would have a more Phil Hellmuth Approach which is Sound but would be considered old Skool and get less respect from today's top players style and approach to the game

There's a diff between Skill and Experiance. If someone excels at poker it's Skill, after you've traveled playing all over the US for years then you gain Experiance... Experiance is more important than skill because it gives you the ability to recognize being in familiar situations in the past and make the right desicion, where as skill you have to rely on making the correct desicion instinctually on the spot.

Jasonv12 is 100% right tho, you have to study everyday away from the game to improve, learn new approaches to it, ask for hand Analyzation from experianced players etc. but ghosting somebody might not work because everyone's style varies...

FK Bof Dem Bishez, won't play me hedz up 4 Rollz.... I think they are overestimated....like a Bo Jackson....FREEKZ

Jason is a beast, i would put him up against anyone

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Originally Posted by ayyaahh

I know I am new to this site, but i do consider myself a decent poker player, and a pretty damn good omaha player. I wouldnt mind doing some coaching and discussing hands preferably any type of omaha.

Danny Chang - Poker Player Profile thats my live mtt stats ( i know it's not much cashes, but there are barely much omaha mtts in the east coast)

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I definitely endorse Danny here, not only is he a good guy and for a short time (had to quit because of school) a moderator at my staking site, I can accredit a lot of what I know about Omaha Hi/Lo to Danny, he basically taught me a lot of how you need to control your table, good hands to lead with, hands good for drawing with, etc. A lot of people know while I'm definitely good at NLHE, my strongest game (besides Razz which isn't popular enough to count lol) is PLO8.


As far as screen share, I agree with Jasons idea being a LOT better, there are occasions where a certain thought process occurs that wont make sense right away, and can look str8 donkish, sometimes it probably is, tilt happens lol. Another example I can say right now, just had Q8s, 4 left to act, I had 8BB and raised only to 2.5BB pre. Why? I was still working on my table image, building up to super nit so it'll help my short stack play later on. I had full intention to call a reraise, unless like everybody jumped in with raises lol and guess what, the 4 ahead of me all with 4x my stack snap folded :cool: thats something I could explain in a prerecord video, not during live play. Obv crappy played hands will happen as well (stated MANY times, we are not pros :D) I'd def want to cut those hands out. Lastly there are hands where I like my technique enough to not share them, after all we have to hold some kind of edge to stay up :cool:


I'll continue to consider doing diff things as they are suggested, and as I have time to volunteer I would be happy to. GL at the tables!

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this is a great idea, there are many here who need some help. alot here need beginner help up to the advanced levels of cash and mtt games. some may just want to learn omaha razz etc. so maybe we can get our own thread section to post hand or talk about diff levels of mtts.

How would someone ghost you? Is that taking a video of your own game?

theres programs where it allows you to see other peoples screens