Implied Odds

When you're sitting at home watching WSOP or Poker After Dark and WPT you'll hear "He was getting 4-1 on that call" or in a tourney and you bluff a dead board you'll hear someone say, "Nice raise, but I was getting 2-1 on that hand". Correct me if I'm wrong, but What they're talking about is, if they make their outs then they'll be paying a percent of the pot size or risking chips for a valuable hand like a flush.

Anyone think in terms of pot odds/implied odds in live play?

I'd like to throw this in with my game, but im not sure how it looks.

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Originally Posted by F4s7R

When you're sitting at home watching WSOP or Poker After Dark and WPT you'll hear "He was getting 4-1 on that call" or in a tourney and you bluff a dead board you'll hear someone say, "Nice raise, but I was getting 2-1 on that hand". Correct me if I'm wrong, but What they're talking about is, if they make their outs then they'll be paying a percent of the pot size or risking chips for a valuable hand like a flush.

Anyone think in terms of pot odds/implied odds in live play?

I'd like to throw this in with my game, but im not sure how it looks.

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i think youre incorrect here man. sounds like you are describing pot odds in these situations. i think pot odds and implied odds are 2 totally different things.

What they're talking about is, if they make their outs then they'll be paying a percent of the pot size or risking chips for a valuable hand like a flush.

thats is implied odds there.

Oh, when HUD is up (usually I play no-hud and take notes) it does have a "Pot Odds" section of the calculator.

Poker Pot Odds | Using Pot Odds In Poker

"Remember! You should only call if the pot odds are greater than the "card odds" (odds of completing your draw)."

So in a half-pot bet into a pot of would be 1:3 implied odds. you'd need card odds of 1:2 or have the nuts to make the call.

CORRECTION! If there's a half pot bet on the flop, 4:1 odds you can call. On the turn you must have 2:1 or greater.

Implied odds are how much u can get out of villain if ur hand does hit, pot odds are the odds u have each time the action is on u. Also to make calls based on pot odds u need to know percentages/odds of hitting each out, the odds for drawing to a flush arent the same as drawing to an open-ended straight.

Also, poker is nothing but a game of odds n percentages, if u arent using these things in ur game already i suggest u learn em. Otherwise ur just gambling n not making the best possible decisions for the right reasons.

Odds are for the birds, I just go with my gut, lol. It works for me.

I've tried and tried to understand pot odds and implied odds,,, just can't get a grasp of it.

pot odds is simple ~~ implieed is what you could win/overall all tied into 1

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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo

Also, poker is nothing but a game of odds n percentages, if u arent using these things in ur game already i suggest u learn em. Otherwise ur just gambling n not making the best possible decisions for the right reasons.

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hey joe while ur at it, i think a good lesson in value betting would be useful as well, or a why not to risk 4k to win 45

wow those odds things have always blowed my mind .i just look at the cards and play he betting big i try to figure whathe has then what i have and go from there wow also so say how you figure who has folded what????

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Originally Posted by atomicpunk

wow those odds things have always blowed my mind .i just look at the cards and play he betting big i try to figure whathe has then what i have and go from there wow also so say how you figure who has folded what????

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if you havent seen it you must assume its live

Tournament play is different. You're playing to either make it deep or win. That changes a lot. In cash games, your goals are obviously different, but for example, short stacked in a tournament, calling 2/3 of your stack because you have the pot odds would make sense if you only actually have a 1/3 chance at winning the pot, despite the 4:1 or whatever you may be getting.

Yeah, all great points. When it comes to tourney everything is a factor; Card Odds (above all), Timing (above card odds), position, range.