Discipline

I am so sick and tired of not having discipline when managing my Bankroll. I will be doing good for a couple days or even a week or two at cash games but then when I start taking a nose dive with my BR I always put it all on a table and make bad decisions and lose it all. I know need discipline and I am determined to reach down inside and plug up the massive leaks and become a better player that has patience, discipline, good Bankroll Management, and I need to make better decisions at the table when I know I am beat. I know what I am doing wrong but its good discipline that is standing in my way. I always blame it on the DONKS, but its not the DONKS fault that I can't control when I go on Super Tilt and play bad. It is my own damn fault and once I accept that and practice good discipline then I will be able to move forward in my Poker Journey. Good Luck Everyone!

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Yeah discipline and BRM is key to success., it doesnt matter what anyone else will say you are the one who has to put a plug in it. Good luck if ur serious.

the first step toward fixing a leak is admitting you have one! good start

though a grind is boring, perhaps you should try micro stakes with a 20-50 stack buyin buffer? just focus, you can do it!

Whatever reasoning you use to play outside of your br is wrong. You'll just have to start arguing with yourself to talk yourself out of doing something stupid. =)

sometimes its best to just take a break after a bad loss but i know what you mean most players have been through it but the nights you lose should be the nights you learn the most.

It's all part of online poker. We think they are out to get us...

I applaud your resolution, and I do hope you can stick with it. But it's like those "never again" mornings after a hellacious drunk - it's really hard to stick to it. I'm not busting your chops - I'm there with ya. I hope you pull it off, and I'll keep working on myself to do the same.

I lack any sort of discipline what so ever! I chase my losses, guard my blinds....and even get random impulses to join the casino (which so far has been a terrible decision)

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Originally Posted by HopsnBarley28

I applaud your resolution, and I do hope you can stick with it. But it's like those "never again" mornings after a hellacious drunk - it's really hard to stick to it. I'm not busting your chops - I'm there with ya. I hope you pull it off, and I'll keep working on myself to do the same.

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Ugh, I'm the "never again" hungover person. I really wish I could stick to that one.

Tilt is one of the worst bankroll killers in poker. I have seen many people flush their rolls because of it. The best advice, and as simple as it is, that I ever received was "there is nothing tying you to the table." Very simple words. Anytime I feel tilt coming on, I take a break or a walk and clear my head. This is a game of concentration. If your concentration is broken, you cannot win.

the discipline are very good always... thanks for the comment.

I share your sentiment. I often find myself scrambling to recover after a bone headed decision. I try not to blame anyone other than myself when things take a downward turn. Sometimes it's best to take a breather and learn rather than tilt.

Remember what I told you Gino. 99% fail. Where do you want to be with poker in 5 years. BRM is the main ingredient to where you want to be in the future. Some words of wisdom.

1. One of the biggest mistakes I see inexperienced no-limit players make is that they are far too willing to play one pair hands for stacks. If you are thinking of playing for stacks, consider how many worse hands versus better hands will play with you.

2. A cooler for the player you are today may be a hero fold for the better player you will be in the future, and the sooner you recognize it, the sooner you will be that better player.

3. Poker is absolutely not about making big hands and collecting the jackpot, and if you keep looking at it that way you simply won’t get better. This thought process likens poker to a slot machine mindset. To many players look at poker this way.

4. You win at poker by examining how other players are putting money into pots. Then you look for the scenarios where your opponents will put money into pots that you can most easily, one way or the other, end up winning.

Poker isn’t a slot machine. If your poker brain is constantly stuck thinking along the lines of, “Let’s make a big hand and get paid. How much can I call, and what are my odds?” you aren’t going to perform well over the long-term.

Instead, think like a poker player. Look at what your opponents are doing and find situations where they put money in the pot without perhaps the most airtight reason to do so. Then think about, under what conditions, you could get at this money. The questions you ask about poker should pertain specifically to how best to get this money.

There is no pay table in this game, and hitting that jackpot hand may net you next to nothing. But if you learn to ask yourself the right questions, you can win big without ever hitting that elusive royal flush.

This can be tough for some especially if results don't turn out the way they want or expect. But if someone asks you should they bet big enough so someone with a flush draw doesn't outdraw them. The answer is no!!! You don’t want him to fold. You want him to raise his flush draw.” And that’s the key to no-limit hold’em. Its about extraction.

Your results in any one session are pure noise. There is no information there. Being even for the day is no magic number. It does not matter whether you quit for the day below even or above even. It does not matter how much you’ve lost from your peak stack of the day. Just because you’ve gotten half your loss on the day back does not mean anything about whether you should keep playing or not keep playing.

It’s all completely meaningless. Completely.

It’s also counter-productive to think about, because these thoughts tend to alter how people play. That number is noise and doesn’t indicate anything about how well or poorly you played.

Start taking one hand a day home with you so to speak, and analyze it top to bottom, what you did and did not do correctly, what could you have done better ect ect. Make a routine of this alone and you will get better.

But most of all , above all things poker, bankroll management. GL This kind of stuff separates the winners from the losers. NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT TO START. Good Luck Gino.

Also stop comparing yourself to others will be a huge help.

Very good read and tips. Props to johnnydeepstack. Reading this made me remember few things i forgot

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Originally Posted by DiscinFrog

Very good read and tips. Props to johnnydeepstack. Reading this made me remember few things i forgot

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Tks

To the op:

I know what you're going through. I myself and trying to establish better rules for myself as far as BR management goes and when to leave a table. I've raise by BR from $0 or min deposit on BCP to $200 or more like 4 times in the past month and a half and I do something way over my bankroll threshold to lose it. I don't have any guidelines for you but I hope you like me finds a way to get a grip on it and make our BR's last longer, if not FOREVER!

Damn JohnnyDeepStacks,thanks for the read. Great tips!!!

I just bet off my whole bankoll today. I got it in with the best of it, but I lost nonetheless. I really have been doing good with stayin at the low stakes, it just that sometimes I go and do things off of a whim. That's where discipline needs to come in. The big gams will always be there, so it's best to just to wait til you have the right bankroll.

I want thank everyone for sharing. I really like the posts that I read it really helps to hear the story's from others.

oh shit i thought this was a GD thread talking about Discipling

patience is a virtue.....and a necessary part of your poker game....as well as discipline . good luck with having more

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Originally Posted by scorcher863

I just bet off my whole bankoll today. I got it in with the best of it, but I lost nonetheless. I really have been doing good with stayin at the low stakes, it just that sometimes I go and do things off of a whim. That's where discipline needs to come in. The big gams will always be there, so it's best to just to wait til you have the right bankroll.

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No , no matter what game, even micro your whole roll should NEVER BE ON THE TABLE. If you dont have the bankroll you shouldnt be sitting, not when you have a site like this to build it up properly to play within your roll

thank you poker sensai. Did that line come to you during intense meditation or did you read it in a fortune cookie?

any site that you go on will have some shitty beats dude

thanks for the post, and the tips in the replays. I think it helps most of us who read it :)

one good thing i do to help keep the discipline is to have other games going, like maybe a freeroll or play chip game, this gives you an out for bordem, you can play anyway you want in these with no downside while keeping your focus on your cash game - to each their own but it does help me

YW guys and gals, its something we all struggle with at times.

Always be there be carefull with the discipline.

You sound very aware of your current leaks and downfalls! I think you have already taken the first step in admitting them.

You will be fine...:)

Good Luck!