Did I play this wrong ?

PokerStars Hand #107387292878: Tournament #820932338, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2013/11/21 19:37:33 ET
Table '820932338 9' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: m1ronO (5465 in chips)
Seat 2: Hassinco (5125 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 3: Oberlix66 (2130 in chips)
Seat 4: PerformLAB (5240 in chips)
Seat 5: ISmellToast (9445 in chips)
Seat 6: gs08bjohnson (5435 in chips)
Seat 7: punisher606 (4681 in chips)
Seat 8: pooli (1945 in chips)
Seat 9: phoenix7724 (6291 in chips)
m1ronO: posts the ante 15
Oberlix66: posts the ante 15
PerformLAB: posts the ante 15
ISmellToast: posts the ante 15
gs08bjohnson: posts the ante 15
punisher606: posts the ante 15
pooli: posts the ante 15
phoenix7724: posts the ante 15
Oberlix66: posts small blind 60
PerformLAB: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PerformLAB [Kc Jd]
ISmellToast: folds
gs08bjohnson: folds
punisher606: folds
pooli: folds
phoenix7724: raises 120 to 240
m1ronO: folds
Oberlix66: folds
PerformLAB: raises 480 to 720
phoenix7724: calls 480
*** FLOP *** [Ks Tc 5h]
PerformLAB: bets 720
phoenix7724: calls 720
*** TURN *** [Ks Tc 5h] [Kd]
PerformLAB: bets 720
phoenix7724: calls 720
*** RIVER *** [Ks Tc 5h Kd] [2s]
PerformLAB: bets 720
phoenix7724: raises 3396 to 4116 and is all-in
PerformLAB: calls 2345 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1051) returned to phoenix7724
punisher606 is sitting out
*** SHOW DOWN ***
phoenix7724: shows [5d 5s] (a full house, Fives full of Kings)
PerformLAB: shows [Kc Jd] (three of a kind, Kings)
phoenix7724 collected 10630 from pot
PerformLAB finished the tournament in 72nd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10630 | Rake 0
Board [Ks Tc 5h Kd 2s]
Seat 1: m1ronO (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Oberlix66 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: PerformLAB (big blind) showed [Kc Jd] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 5: ISmellToast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gs08bjohnson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: punisher606 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: pooli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: phoenix7724 showed [5d 5s] and won (10630) with a full house, Fives full of Kings

yes

Was there actually a way of putting him on that hand ?

I don't think your pre-flop raise was a good move unless you had notes on the villain that said they would always try and steal the blinds. The reason is because you have the advantage pre-flop, but you are going to have to act first every other turn and that gives the villain the advantage after the flop. I may have even still folded the hand and not even called. After that initial mistake, I would have played the hand the same way.

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Originally Posted by rghy2

I don't think your pre-flop raise was a good move unless you had notes on the villain that said they would always try and steal the blinds. The reason is because you have the advantage pre-flop, but you are going to have to act first every other turn and that gives the villain the advantage after the flop. I may have even still folded the hand and not even called. After that initial mistake, I would have played the hand the same way.

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He was active in the last 2 hands, and one of the showdowns, which had similar preflop bet size he was holding 7-8s, I put him on something like that, or maybe A-Rags... since he had played a few of these the same way...

you should let it go pre-flop

Yes you played it horrible KJ is a horrible hand.
You should always try to read your opponent the possiblites to have a trips at the flop and figure out if he try to bluff or not.
Can't you see that phoenix7724 is very confident with his hand?

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Originally Posted by ProBlackbird

Yes you played it horrible KJ is a horrible hand.
You should always try to read your opponent the possiblites to have a trips at the flop and figure out if he try to bluff or not.
Can't you see that phoenix7724 is very confident with his hand?

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He wasted 4K chips in the hand before chasing a flush to the river while calling the last bet without even making his flush.... I had him on A-10 or K-lower kicker...

My initial goal was a fold pre flop on my raise.
once in the hand, wether i would have check called, or bet bet, the end result was going to be the same...

given ur reads of villain opening light, i really like ur 3bet with KJo in the BB instead of flatting. bet ~816 on the flop and on the turn i don't like that u bet 720->3075 on the turn because it's extreeeeemely tiny and ur goal is to stack this guy. with the pot @ 3k and u with 3.7k behind u have a decision to either shove or bet smallish around 33% of ur stack to induce a shove vs ur opp (if he's aggressive). if he just calls then shove the river.

Yes!!

No!!!

LMAO JohnnyDeepStacks ! Mixed Feelings ?

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Originally Posted by qcnb

LMAO JohnnyDeepStacks ! Mixed Feelings ?

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Maybe so!! ha ha :p

i think you played well that hand but your opponent had better position after the flop and was lucky too. With that hand you opponent couldnt fold of a minimum reraise.... so i say you played well the hand! next time u need a little more luck

your wrong!!!

I agree with everyone on the fact that it was a bad pre flop move. after that there was nothing to do. You could not put him on that hand but maybe could have gotten away from it putting him on a better K. Hope you learned from this. Better luck next time.

I would not have 3 bet with king jack preflop. Other than that I doubt that you could put him on pocket 5s. I suppose he could have ace king but I could see how trip kings could be tough to get away from in this situation.

sometimes I think I can play really bad, because I am too impatient eagerness to win and when I get a quick result, why should I handle my knowledge in this type of game.

Looks like a typical cooler and based on everything about the hand and what you've said about the villain, the only mistake you made was the somewhat light 3 bet preflop. I'm sure he would've called that with even a lesser hand then 5s, given what you said about him. Everything else, position of players in hand, trips with decent kicker, etc. was just bad luck for you. Villain played it well and got you committed by the river.

its hard to see a set, but when the board pairs and he hammers it like that you really have to think about him being full or having you out kicked. AK, KQ, KT, 55 and TT are all very realistic hands. Seeing how he smoothed your 3bet that defines his range somewhat. KQ, KT and 55 are very reasonable hands to open smooth with TT and AK you probably wouldve been 4bet. Really its just a cooler and tough to get away from especially in a tourney. Better luck next time

You're out of the positing, have KJo which honestly isn't such a good hand and you're re-raising the villain. He calls you, you bet flop, he keeps calling you down and on river he moves all in..... So it was very clear he wasn't calling with air. You should've re-evaulated on the flop .... after he called your bet again. Unless you had read on this guy that would give you reason to believe that he's a maniac. It definitely would've crossed my mind that he flopped a set. But you should've let this one go pre-flop. Would save you a lot of troubles. I understand though that once you saw turn it was hard to get away from that.

based on what you told us about villain, you should have folded on the river.