I feel like on Carbon they have the river hit all the time I just lost poc 4's to poc 10's with kid hitting river trips and I also won twice on the river on low percentage I see it all the time and just doesn't seem legit to me anyone else?
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I feel like on Carbon they have the river hit all the time I just lost poc 4's to poc 10's with kid hitting river trips and I also won twice on the river on low percentage I see it all the time and just doesn't seem legit to me anyone else?
I feel like on Carbon I see a river card 100% of the time a hand is played until the river. Something doesn't seem right...
oh yeah i've noticed way more bad beats on the river than on the turn and it is the same % chance
definitely something fishy going on and im luckily on the good side of it as of recent
its all a random. u guys just tend to notice the suckouts and unlikely hits.
I just had AA hold up six times in a row (non-consecutive) in one tourney on merge. Its a lot easier to notice the suckouts than the winning streaks you have.
you are all crazy - stop the nosense - there is NO conspiracy to let the bad players win - its not probable and its not possible - so let it go!
If there is one thing you dont want to hit its likely gonna hit
Unless they play for the Mets. Then they won't hit regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prawney
as an old timey conspiracy theorist, my first instinct is to discount them... cuz as my brother in law, once pointed out to me, what makes more sense... the 3 richest guyss in the world get together n agree we'll steal pennies and nickels from all of the billions of poor people... or do two of them get together and say we'll take down that guy... quicker, less risk/ more reward... that being said.... what was happening prior to Black Friday.... Who's watching the major networks right now? with no national level legislation the same crap could be happening at the new larger networks.... I don't think so, but how would we know???
we know because the programming necessary to make it happen doesnt make sense logicistically- dont make me pull out the old abacus and tell you guys why -(also do not get me started about the fake program that shows you what the board cards are or whatever the myth is) also there is no reason for them to make the program work like that anyways - too much at risk and they make plenty of money already
Anyone here remember lucsac915? Youtube guy complaining about Pokerstars. funny dude
i think detroit junky is correct.
Bots and only bots.......It did not take long to figure out what was going on and to finish up a fake play ......many sites are fake
bots are a whole other issue - i dont mind them because they are easy to beat when you figure out how they are programmed
yes carbon is a set up site for sure, if anyone cant see tht your crazy as hell
i can see the truth - and it comes in the form of computer programming knowledge - knowledge of gaming theory, and stats = they all say it cant happen - bots maybe, but changing what the board cards are to make a certain person win is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!
Then again, I see a lot of folks playing poc 4's and poc 10's (all low and mid-pps) as if they are the absolute nuts preflop. Maybe it's more important to analyze your own play to see how to get past the donks.
then you havent played enough - everyone has had a roll washed away - when you reached your 100 did you go up in level? that seems to be the issue with lost br's - people get more money and go up and dont make the necessary changes to their game and wonder why they lost - just saying - either way its still not the site doing it to youQuote:
Originally Posted by EyegotnutZ
I have had some real crazy bad beats on the river, but it happens. There are times when you KO someone on a card you shouldn't have hit on the river as well. Happens both ways. I did it live once. Had top pair top kicker and guy had an overpair and I hit trips on the river. Happens live too not just online.
A lot of good post in here I would just like to compare 4% into rivers online to table poker or just run a testing on it and see what comes out of it.
ill tell ya - im a poker dealer here in michigan - i see it live all the time - our tourneys range from 20-30 bucks so its a bingo parlor - it just happens - 33% is still 1 out of 3 times - so it does happen more than you would think - this makes it seem like alot more than it should be
the rivers are the same on all online sites, you need luck and skill and more luck to win the big games online..
Very true. Those are the ones that stand out the most, especially since most of us are playing a bunch of hands every time we play.Quote:
Originally Posted by astub1975
But also its like any other site not just carbon
It's nice to see peeps talkin' numberz and stats instead of whining about cheating software and collusion... I took statistics in college... n the reason I still go to the casino's is you have to remember "Outliers Happen" but it's still smarter to trust the EV's... When I attended Abc CASINO SCHOOL IN tEMPE az, i WAS AMAZED AT THE WAY THE CARDS APPEARED TO RUN OUTSIDE the probilities in the dealers favor consistently, but running a few sims w/ one of my engineers convinced me... they just appeared that way, bcuz I remember the bad beats more than I remember the suckoutz...
yes - it does just SEEM that way - depending on your vantage point
now- can you be caught up in a black swan event (no not the movie) yes you can - such a bad run of luck it seems to disprove the actually odds - but check this out - i ran a random coin flip program 10000 times - and there was an area where heads came up like 280 times in a row in the thread - now imagine your luck cycle existed on this thread and you got to flip a coin for a bet on tails 100 times in a row - and all 100 of those times fell into that 280 heads flips area - you wouldnt win a single bet - you would think you were being cheated - and would believe it wholeheartedly- when in reality you just got really unlucky and there was no one cheating you at all
Yes, I've done similar w/ WINCRAPS... that's kinda my point, outliers happen in any run of statistical events... but over the Loooong Run you can count on the EV's...
Of course when it's me running bad, I think that the Universe has turned on ME... or the gods have something against me PERSONALLY!
thankyou zimtal for helping me fight against cheatspiryism - a word i made up for the affliction that people get and think the website is out to cheat them - JUST SAY NO TO CHEATSPIRYISM - with help we can squash this disease for good
yea I hate people that whine about the sites cheating!
Most people that complain like that are terrible players!
Say it ain't so! At least we have a place to complain about the suckouts, bad beats, etc, because nothing is going to change, unfortunately.
There is no reason as to why this continues to happen. I think because you are playing online a lot and it just seems that it happens more. If you were playing in live tournaments you would probably be saying the same thing.
(ive been on the run of getting busto on turn and river when im a 3-1 dogg... imagine that... RNG no way
I agree about carbon rivers always seem to river out but that's poker
its not the site! just seems that way sometimes!! u take the good with the bad!!
Carbon has been good to me so far in the micros. 1 bad beat w runner runner trips. I'm up 15$ and winning at about 12bb/100. (3k) ;)