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Any tips for when it appropriate to steal blinds (and antes) in PO tournaments?
I mean obviously in the later stages the blinds have a lot of weight, but I also don't want to be called if I have to flip for my tournament or whatever if I don't need to and seeing flops becomes ugly. When I'm unsure, I usually just fold, but I play too nitty late and usually fold away my stack as it is.
You dont have to push(like ALOT of po players do) to steal blinds, sometimes a dbl blind is enough sometimes 4xbb, just have to pay attention and know ur opponents LOL
steal the blinds is good but you have to do it carefully!
i love to steal blinds, but it sometime lead to out of the tournament.
Stealing blinds one thing but being a dumb ass pushing all in putting tourney life online for it is retarded. but then again..I do love taking donkeys chips..Quote:
Originally Posted by vivekkumar
u should manipulate the player first
All about the table, players and reads you have on them.. If in a tourney.. ask yourself.. what do I have to do to get this blind? Is it worth it? Do I really Need the chips? Will this player actually fold if I raise? Are there antes involved? how many more blinds do I have? What position are you in? Will you have to act first after the flop if called? What will I do after the flop if I miss? Can I outplay this person or is he a calling station? Have I seen this players cards at least 1 time to know if hes a Gibraltar ( person who only plays top prime hands. AA KK AK maybe QQ) or not? Is this player tight or lose? Has he been winning a lot in the past 30 min? Is the pot worth trying to steal? What kind of table image to I have? Loose? Tight? Of course having a tight image works much better for steals deep in games with higher blinds/antes. Do I have outs if I shove and Blinds have AA and KK? Meaning can I get a str8 and Flush? Or just a flush? Does it have to be a 4 card flush or 3 card? Same with str8. I may just think how many possibilities do I have if I am called? and Will this criple me if he/she/it does call and hits? Am I going to have to fire all 3 barrels? How much can I bet knowing I will probably miss? Is my table image appropriate for trying to steal blinds at this time/lvl of the game? How many times have I tried to steal already? This is some of the things I think of when attempting to steal. Of course there are many more things to think about but this will at least make u think for a sec before you try stealing blinds to try and judge if this is a moment that you can steal them. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by jasonv12
And how do u manipulate the player first?Quote:
Originally Posted by vivekkumar
Well here lately if i have a somewhat decent hand and i feel it's a steal i will come back over the top bc ive gotten crazier lmao
Yea the read you have on your players is more important then.. I am in the button im gonna push to steal.. What I do not get is why so many newbs try to steal blinds at 10/20 or 15/30 etc.. what is the point? You shove for 40 chips trying to steal? In my opinion you should probably not be in blind stealing mods this early. I can see stealing pots or trying to out play people but I mean at this point, I would fold AJ suited vs an all in shove on BB when most will not hesitate. I have also folded AK un suited in this position. All depends on the players and your reads like abwil2 said.Quote:
Originally Posted by abwil2
I would only try and steal in late position. A lot of donks like to shove with nothing so you need to make sure you don't get caught up in some BS there. It's not something I like to do without a good hand to fall back on. I won;t try and steal with 2 7 off suit. Make sure it's something you'd play with before trying to go for stealing blinds.
Love players like you. I will purposely repeatedly raise vs players like you knowing that you will shove most times "Thinking" or "Feeling" I am trying to steal specially when you have a garbage hand like AJ off under the gun. Players who react because they "FEEL" it is a steal are usually ego induced donkey who generally are broke players. In which case one of the easiest to busto...Quote:
Originally Posted by JKoFF
Don't agree only for 1 reason.. IF there is a player that has not played a hand in 20 min. I will raise almost every time from min raise to 4x raise. With 23 or AA... Why you ask? Easy. Players this tight will most ALWAYS let you know their hand strength by either just calling or raising/shoving. So here is the math VS tight players if I am on button vs tight player I will raise 8/9 times knowing he will fold more then likely 7/9 times. Making the steal attempts valuable and worth it because of his fold rate. BUT I will never shove when trying to steal because I am not stupid enough to put my tourney life on the line for a steal when there are already so many damn variables of crap that can take me out, why would I raise my chances even more? I try not to but this is poker so at some point.. ANY strategy will work. and at some point NO strategy will work. That is why I love this game. Keep my stock in Excedrin high! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Infector101
you have gotten crazier and good at being nasty to someone that steals it back from you!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JKoFF
on another note sometimes it is not that easy to steal blinds, JUST SAYIN!! LMAO!!!!
True that some games are almost impossible. LOL. Again going back to your reads and table.. etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by mommahud
I totally agree with you, you can get caught in a bunch of BS and usually (not always) I try to make sure I have a good hand before I try to steal the blindQuote:
Originally Posted by Infector101
It all depends what position you're in and the type of player playing Holly still blinds in the later stages of a tournament
I gotta say stealing blinds is my specialty, specially when big stack
sometimes when you try to steal the pot you get reraised.. probably by an all in or a redic high bet.. so i dont do it often
I think I did a really good at this in the last freeroll at Carbon last night. I opened up my range a lot more once the antes kicked in and raised tight players out and raised in late position a lot with a constant raise size around just under 2.5 bbs. That play only has to work 57% of the time to net chips not even including after the flop or if I have hands to call shoves on. It worked 82% of the time. It has a crazily high EV. I need a stack to put pressure on shorter stack to begin with tho! I'm really gonna keep working on this. I may have actually found something that works for me in these freerolls that nets better than abc poker. I've been trying to find that practically since I joined the site!
Stealing the pot is fun! It works a lot for me but only when i do it at the right time.. Just did as i am typing this and got my 2nd bounty to make this a freeroll sit and go lol .. Wish me luck. Hope i place