Quote Originally Posted by lilg97 View Post
no way in hell u make that call unless u seen my hand just saying mathematically impossible even vs pros
Ego is such a killer. I know it's impossible to imagine that someone puts you on a hand and then your betting solidifies their read. Everything about every bet you make screams, "Just go away." But he doesn't. So you shove, lol. Can you not see the desperation in your play? I was actually surprised to see you not holding AK here, because that's the read I made when I read thru it. You're big-stacked, so possibly he's seen you play a few hands. It's likely his hand is live and you have the stack to double him on a whim. He hits a piece and your c-bet is scared. Could be a trap, but it's likely just another standard near-pot bet trying to bully with a stack. But the turn doesn't slow you down, nor speed you up. Did you ever bother to put him on a hand? If you had a big or small pair that missed the board, it's likely that turn slows you down. If you have a Queen, that turn likely slows you down. If you have something like AK or AJ, you're likely to fire another barrel hoping to win. And yet he lingers. So at that point it doesn't seem like you've put him on a hand at all, and clearly you haven't considered what hand he is putting you on. When you shove the river, it just feels desperate.

Of course, playing poker can be like how George Carlin describes driving: anyone going faster than you is a maniac, anyone going slower is an idiot. It never dawns on some poker players that they are telegraphing their hands, that a player may be able to make sick reads (and this one isn't even all that sick, tbh), or that they simply got outplayed. Man up. Learn from it rather than berate the "idiot," unless you enjoy explaining how an idiot owned you.