Just your everyday 5bet with 82o

I was just in this insane hand in a deep tournament where like this one fishy, frankly horrible player raised the cutoff, the player on the button (a big winning player) made a tiny 3bet.

This player's ambitions were obvious. He wanted to isolate the fishy player and have position on them.

The small blind clearly recognized what the guy in the button was up to and he 4bet him. Another winning player, but super loose aggressive and the type to just barrel at everyone.

So the blinds are at 100/200, 20 ante. The open was to 400, the 3bet to 825, and the 4bet was to 1785. I have 5900. If I shove all in, this is like almost a 60% chip up. The only player who EVER has a real hand here is the fishy player and we're on the bubble, they might get scared and fold anyways.

I look down at my 28o and shove all in.

Everyone folds like instantaneously. And my immediate reaction is to just laugh. I won the pot.

(this was a very specific spot, with very specific conditions, don't try this at home kids ;))

that shows that the players have uber respect for your bet and they they were all just after the pot nicely done dude balls of steel

I've seen you play, you're a donk.

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Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk

I've seen you play, you're a donk.

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lol You can think what you want.

You should look at my results though. They speak for themselves. I'm a winner at every stake:
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...4E175.html?t=8

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Originally Posted by azreal1

that shows that the players have uber respect for your bet and they they were all just after the pot nicely done dude balls of steal

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haha Was the typo on steal (steel) intentional? lmfao

dunno what your talking about *whistles*

lol dunno what ya talking about? *LOL*

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Originally Posted by azreal1

dunno what your talking about *whistles*

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ya ya smartass. lmao :P

good analysis and gutsy move - glad it worked out for ya this time

i love watching jason play!! one day whens hes on the TV in the pro circuit, we can all say we knew him when!! dont forget about us small people LOL!!!

you shoulda showed ya hand imo...made them sick haha

Good play

very nice move and it shows that when you know who you are playing against that you can take advantage of situations like these. I like your last comment as well by the way because I've noticed that the "fishy fish" have a habit of reading a post like this and trying it the first chance they get.

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Originally Posted by tracyrickrobby

i love watching jason play!! one day whens hes on the TV in the pro circuit, we can all say we knew him when!! dont forget about us small people LOL!!!

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I've got quite a ways to go yet Tracy. :)

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Originally Posted by jasonv12

lol You can think what you want.

You should look at my results though. They speak for themselves. I'm a winner at every stake:
JASONV12 Poker Results and Statistics - Official Poker Rankings

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Yes I see but you're only at like 9k, to be a true winner, you need to be at least 30k. Good luck staying at the micros,lol.

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Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk

Yes I see but you're only at like 9k, to be a true winner, you need to be at least 30k. Good luck staying at the micros,lol.

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You're just throwing numbers around trying to sound smart. lol And btw I took 8th in the big ticket (while buying in directly) on Sunday which is the biggest weekly tournament in the US with a $215 buy in.

Don't start anything just because you don't understand my play.

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Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk

Yes I see but you're only at like 9k, to be a true winner, you need to be at least 30k. Good luck staying at the micros,lol.

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simple question, why are you here?
uve been a member for almost a year
have made 2 whole posts (both of them antagonising a regular active member)
$0.00 money won
so either you are a "winning" player in which case you really shouldnt have bothered joining" or ure just a mouthy lil so n so out to cause issues

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Originally Posted by azreal1

simple question, why are you here?
uve been a member for almost a year
have made 2 whole posts (both of them antagonising a regular active member)
$0.00 money won
so either you are a "winning" player in which case you really shouldnt have bothered joining" or ure just a mouthy lil so n so out to cause issues

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I'm here so I can earn some points and do the pokerowned freerolls, I notice that some of the sites are taking some freerolls away so I had to find another way to make money without losing a single dime.

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Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk

I'm here so I can earn some points and do the pokerowned freerolls, I notice that some of the sites are taking some freerolls away so I had to find another way to make money without losing a single dime.

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and its taken you a year to do this...for SUCH a pro you seem to be lacking in funds, something jason isnt...maybe keep your wise cracks to yourself unless you have the $$$ to back it up

disgusting common on here though there are a huge number of players on here that are more like bingo players then poker players.

It may have worked for you in the circumstances, and i give you mad props for watching your players and using their stats as a reading caculus for the game play. however, when ther is a 4 bet and u open 5 bet to try and steal the pot, good luck, be ause that is hardly ever working.

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Originally Posted by jasonv12

You're just throwing numbers around trying to sound smart. lol And btw I took 8th in the big ticket (while buying in directly) on Sunday which is the biggest weekly tournament in the US with a $215 buy in.

Don't start anything just because you don't understand my play.

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Tell him jason!! micros my butt!! jason started his bankroll and has graduate with honors!! i dont think $11, $33 are micros??? LOL

id say thats a losing move over the course of time but you found a good spot so fair play to ya.. nice bet

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Originally Posted by crozza3

id say thats a losing move over the course of time but you found a good spot so fair play to ya.. nice bet

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The thing is it's not a play over time. It's one spot that I sought to capitalize on. I had 5900 chips on the bubble of a deep tournament. That's a very short stack compared to the average despite having like 26 effective bbs. That chip up is so great, it literally was close to a double up (if you count my dead blind out, it was only like 6bbs short of one).

Not only that, but it just felt right. 5900 is the perfect amount because it is just BARELY enough where no one is pot committed. If I had 5500, despite noticing this spot, I'd have to fold, but this was a $60 tournament and I KNEW that these players (well the 3bettor and 4bettor) were thinking at a level which was deep and calculated. I made this move because psychologically, I understood what they were trying to accomplish and I was able to 1 up them. Does that make me a better player than them? Certainly not.

Does that make my move correct? Still no. Someone could have snapped me off with AA and I STILL would have just laughed.

But it isn't about that, nor is it about if the move worked or not. It is about using every weapon in your arsenal and trying to make the best play for exactly what is going on right then. Not a systematic play, but one that feels right to the situation.

This situation was calling for this action and I felt I needed to capitalize on this, so I did. And if it failed, I'd still be proud of my play, not because it was correct or wasn't correct, but because I was able to suck up my fears and make a play I felt was right. And reads are never 100% no matter how good you are.

This play might not have been profitable even in that spot, who knows? But it still isn't the point. The point is I saw an opportunity and I went for it. Because I don't play for 122nd place, ever. I play for 1st.

Great play, I would have tried this and got called by KJo lol :x

how were u guys near bubble at 100/200 level thats like the 4th level of the tourney at most.. no matter what your read on the players is, that move will work about 1/100000 times. especially online one of the 3 is bound to have a hand the way that played out 99.99 percent of the time

that being said.. lol nice bet

your table image had something to do with it as well as being on the bubble. Ballsy play, not sure I could have pulled that one off.

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Originally Posted by dpadgett1

how were u guys near bubble at 100/200 level thats like the 4th level of the tourney at most.. no matter what your read on the players is, that move will work about 1/100000 times. especially online one of the 3 is bound to have a hand the way that played out 99.99 percent of the time

that being said.. lol nice bet

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15/30
20/40
25/50
30/60
40/80
50/100
60/120
75/150
100/200

20 minute levels. So no, not really.

that shows that the players have uber respect for your bet and they they were all just after the pot nicely done dude balls of steel