I hate Carbon

anyone else think this place is rigged more than full tilt

I dfintiely think its RAKE skewed. I mean I see way too many WSOP final table highlight hands - every other hand is a River made 1 card flush or boat for 23 suited... etc... made hands all the way through till River

Hmm. Not sure. I do notice lots of bad beats and weird plays a lot. Players like to call with nothing.

Welcome to the I Hate Carbon Club! You aren't alone.

Surprise, Carbon hates you too, depending on the day! In fact there's a special spot in the VIP section where you can check to see if it hates you that day. ;) lol

Dont be a hater. Sure you got to take the good with the bad.

it like all poker sites are rigged

craziness happens on all the poker sites i think..

its madness

The carbon program from merge poker is set up for the flop to have a big pot!!

Just join the millions of others and get poker legal again then we won't have to play on crappy Merge anymore...lol

carbon is more rigged than fulltilt and pokerstars put together.... need i say more?

I have seen some weird things happen on carbon myself. but like the last person says, being in the us we dont have much of a choice right now.

Come on guys, poker is a tricky game and you see weird stuff all the time. I have yet to see someone saying "hey man, check out this new poker site, it's totally predictable and what you think is going to happen happens." That's not the game we play. When we play online, we see a lot of hands, and in all that time, it's easy to see some weird stuff. If you think all the online sites are rigged (granted, some might be, but just play live. The same stupid stuff happens.

i hate carbon, havent played there yet :) ehlul

Hate to say it, but Pokerstars is getting weird too.

If pokerstars is getting weird, we should just stop playing online poker lol. And once live gets weird, we can assume the dealers are cheating.

I have played a hell of a lot of hands on PS, and recently played a great many on Carbon as well. I don't really see a dramatic difference in terms of how the cards lay out. I do however notice more weird stuff on PS, but I'm pretty sure that is because there are more DONKS with more money then sense playing hands that most of us would fold.

As Carbon/Merge grows, you will see more people of different skill levels playing, and thus more hands that normaly would not play out go the distance. Thats where the wierdness sets in. The law of averages says that shitty cards will flop as often as good ones...

On the whole, I have more sucess on Carbon these days, and have seen less weirdness. With that said, I've also found that the higher the stakes, the better the competition, and the less weirdness I encounter.

For what it is worth, you will see the most experienced players play hunches now and then, such as playing a 2-3 off because they haven't seen either of those cards on the table in a few hands. Sometimes it looks like they are psychics, but maybe they are just playing with the law of averges. For my part, I love having crappy cards on the blinds and watching everyone give me a chance to limp into a pot. I have luckboxed so many great pots that way.

Ive been on all the sites.. Never have I been on 1 like merge. I get bad beats but come the F on for 9 months the same BS over and over and over... wait .... isnt this...... . OMG....... ITS CALLED POKER.. but seriously.... Let his simmer in your brain a sec... Merge was great . had great traffic... THEN>.. Lock leaves the scene.. their BIGGEST skin. UH OH.. withing a month after that ( or sooner i forgot ) Merge has a MAJOR SOFTWARE UPDATE.. After this update which mind you took like 12 hours. All of a sudden its bad beat hell. ROI starts dropping like a ROCK on everyone. HMMMMMMM> How do you make up the 20k a week you just lost with a major skin? Upgrade your software to make it that more bad beats happen? HMMM make it so the aggressor wins 90% of pots? Make it so the underdog idiot hands win 85% of the time? Make it so you get more beats here and have to play more and more tourneys to win what you were winning prior? HMMM.. sounds fishy.. Think I am full of shit? LOL better get your facts straight like I got mine.. THIS SITE IS BS ever since lock left it they have been scrounging to try and make up the lost $ by making it so you have to play 10x more the games then usual get more bad beats then ever.. Makes it so you gotta play more to make more and that = more rake for the hours. Now I have a -ROI on merge and +18% and above every where else? ( cept juicy am down $150 .. yea I know I suck )Sorry after 9 months of merge I saw a HUGE difference after there last so called update when lock left merge started to spiral down and believe me its not gonna stop anytime soon. GET THE FUCK OFF THAT NETWORK ITS BS. Was ok before when Lock was there now.. give me a break. Its a pos site just trying to make up the lost $ when lock left.

I can see why people see it rigged but it can be worse. Read the article on betonline. That site tired stealing 65 grand from a player.

I am not saying it is rigged or not. But if you are playing micros, does it really payoff for them to rig you? Unless they have bots playing, they would lose money by rigging micros because of the expense involved.

hate it till death bro......hate is real.

I do notice lots of bad beats and weird plays a lot.

Everyone thinks all the online sites are rigged. If you feel that strongly about it, then stop playing online. Go play live for a while and let me know how rigged that is too. Bad beats happen. You just see a lot more hands online. Even if it was rigged, they aren't targeting specific people, so you still get the luck of the draw.

welcome to the world of poker. may your pots be huge and your loses be few and far in between.

Have to agree, it seem to reward the chance player more then the player who plays properly

I actually kinda ike carbon myself. It's a hell of alot better than nothing.

i feel like its rigged when i'm losing but it's great when i'm winning haha

I think it has a HORRIBLE RNG. I'm not necessarily call that rigged, just a really bad feature of their software.

the players are just horrible...example. freeroll(i know), i raise it 5 BB's pre flop, get caller, flop comes 8 Q 10 rainbow, i holding pocket 8s, bet the pot, get called, turn is rag, bet pot about 900, get call, river is a 9...call all in, knowing the calling station has a jack. sure as shit J2 off suit.

I actually don't think Carbon is rigged. I really like playing on Carbon and anytime you play online poker you are at risk because of all the extra hands you play online.

I agree with you guys. Carbon is terrible

Carbon has always been horrible imo. The only time I really liked them was back before Merge, when Carbon was Poker dot com. Those were the good old days. The biggest complaint back then - and during the first year or two of Merge/Carbon - was that they were dumping too much into those VIP freerolls and not enough into other promos. Then they sold the domain, moved to Carbon and opened a network. Since then they (Merge) have wh0red their software out to anyone with a few bucks. There have been quite a few scandals there. Their AMs always promise new deposit options and/or faster US payouts but those promises got old 2-3 years ago. It is rumored that they only have around 50% of player balances, thus the regular delays on payments. I don't think Carbon is rigged in any way but I wouldn't put it past a few skins if they have access to the source code and all of that.