bad players...hard to define them as bad when they have so much luck on their side as low and behold that seems to be a big big part of online poker...but I boy do I know what you mean with some of the plays a guy can run into...wowzers...even at the Poker owned client where you would think a bit of pride in playing good would come into effect..stopped in there today to send a 100 pts away with double suited aces...a half my stack pot bet and I think the whole table called...of course one of them caught and beat me...the luck factor and a herd of eager beavers are tough to beat right...lol