Solving the PO scamming issue REDUX

How's this:

Designate 3 levels of ticker access (and the mods need the power to adjust this whenever they want):

1) Full - works like it does now, anyone with full access can make a ticker. Let the mods designate 30-40 people that have had no issues here have this access as a starting point (Nelson, Newdaddy, etc.). The mods can add and remove people to this list as they see fit.

2) Limited - Case by case basis, approved by the mods, with a 1-3 hour time limit. Assures that the person actually has what they are trading, or can verify that the person is someone who is active (We have members who have old accounts showing up out of nowhere to do tickers). If you are banged down from full to limited, you NEVER get off of this level. New users that qualify by tenure should have to have a few successful ticks before they are upgraded to full.

3) Lucky - No tickers ever.

I've been drinking for 12 hours straight and I came up with this. And Im so serious about this idea I have not included the signature of the midget getting wrecked by Bo Dallas. You're welcome.

Works for me. A hardy Hear Hear!!! and a +1 to boot.

lol Amen brother

These are good ideas, especially number 3. Some restrictions would be nice. #banlucky4life

I wanna make this clear, level 3 NEEDS to be called lucky. The idea doesn't work without it.

And the midget is included for this one

I would like to move my #3 status (lucky) to number 1 please.

Aslong as humans are as stupid as they are right now there will always be scamms.

We aint a bank here this is a forum, people should learn not to risk what they cant lose its really that simple.
I mean we have not had 1 single Real scammer here that would have cought anyone because they are that good, the times i have gotten scammed i expected to get so and took the risk, but most of the time i have just kept it to myself and only made a post if i seen the other person activily trading , and did the post just to get the scammer of the forum.
But whenever someone gets scammed its their very own fault, its not like a robbery or anything alike, they decided to do the trade- if people dont learn to work for themselfs and think alone, then its their very own fault and no one elses.

all said in short---
Dont trust anyone with (-something-) you cant afford to lose, and if you still do be it your fault if you lose it.

We have a secure marketplace if its used correctly and that is more then enought

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Originally Posted by TKD55

Aslong as humans are as stupid as they are right now there will always be scamms.

We aint a bank here this is a forum, people should learn not to risk what they cant lose its really that simple.
I mean we have not had 1 single Real scammer here that would have cought anyone because they are that good, the times i have gotten scammed i expected to get so and took the risk, but most of the time i have just kept it to myself and only made a post if i seen the other person activily trading , and did the post just to get the scammer of the forum.
But whenever someone gets scammed its their very own fault, its not like a robbery or anything alike, they decided to do the trade- if people dont learn to work for themselfs and think alone, then its their very own fault and no one elses.

all said in short---
Dont trust anyone with (-something-) you cant afford to lose, and if you still do be it your fault if you lose it.

We have a secure marketplace if its used correctly and that is more then enought

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You are, unsurprisingly missing the issue - and also, you're the dude that when i first started here asked me if a had a prepaid card who's account he can use...in bubble chat. So shut your mouth.

Id like to know why joemama's account isnt permabanned after its obvious he scammed 2 long time members...what kind of shop are we running here?

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Originally Posted by rivdee

You are, unsurprisingly missing the issue - and also, you're the dude that when i first started here asked me if a had a prepaid card who's account he can use...in bubble chat. So shut your mouth.

Id like to know why joemama's account isnt permabanned after its obvious he scammed 2 long time members...what kind of shop are we running here?

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I asked you ONCE if you had a card you DID not use anymore and would have paid accordingly with the points id have made with it.
What exactly does that have to do with people being to retarded to relise a scamm? and risking what they shouldt

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Originally Posted by TKD55

I asked you ONCE if you had a card you DID not use anymore and would have paid accordingly with the points id have made with it.
What exactly does that have to do with people being to retarded to relise a scamm? and risking what they shouldt

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Here's why dickhead - i was a newb on the site, and you bubbled me asking that. What kind of person does that? Now luckily, im not retarded, so i shook you off as some predator.

But we have TONS of bubble predators here that hit up people for loans, stakes, etc. Its NOT acceptable.

You guys wanna stop it for good? ZERO TOLERANCE. ZERO. No coming back after a mistake, no temp ban. Throw em out.
What happens when we give people second chances? Has it worked out? Dpad? LC? SHOW ME AN INSTANCE OF A REFORMED SCAMMER.

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Originally Posted by rivdee

Here's why dickhead - i was a newb on the site, and you bubbled me asking that. What kind of person does that? Now luckily, im not retarded, so i shook you off as some predator.

But we have TONS of bubble predators here that hit up people for loans, stakes, etc. Its NOT acceptable.

You guys wanna stop it for good? ZERO TOLERANCE. ZERO. No coming back after a mistake, no temp ban. Throw em out.
What happens when we give people second chances? Has it worked out? Dpad? LC? SHOW ME AN INSTANCE OF A REFORMED SCAMMER.

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Well,
I welcome all scammers , Welcome here in this forum scammers.
People have to watch out themselfs, as said we have a save Mp and thats enought.
Im not giving right to the scammer nor saying its ok to do so, but people have to just learn and watch out for themselfs or it will NEVER EVER END GTD

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Originally Posted by rivdee

You guys wanna stop it for good? ZERO TOLERANCE. ZERO. No coming back after a mistake, no temp ban. Throw em out.
What happens when we give people second chances? Has it worked out? Dpad? LC? SHOW ME AN INSTANCE OF A REFORMED SCAMMER.

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Zab has banned those accounts, and we keep banning them as they come up, LCD just scored a couple weeks ago.
Banning does not stop it, but we are banning.

i nominate myself for Thieves/scammers enforcer mod. i will hunt them down and not one scam will slip by.

i suggested a tier system to ZAB ... he said go fuck yourself!


lol

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Originally Posted by TKD55

Well,
I welcome all scammers , Welcome here in this forum scammers.
People have to watch out themselfs, as said we have a save Mp and thats enought.
Im not giving right to the scammer nor saying its ok to do so, but people have to just learn and watch out for themselfs or it will NEVER EVER END GTD

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did you just said your going to welcome scammers? Give me your home address and let me swing by and do a home invasion on your ass.

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Originally Posted by dk12

i suggested a tier system to ZAB ... he said go fuck yourself!


lol

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oooohh i want so bad to mention that we have all been assured that all suggestions are taken seriously so would be interested on the wording of that rejection....

/troll

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Originally Posted by dk12

i suggested a tier system to ZAB ... he said go fuck yourself!


lol

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lmao

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Originally Posted by DuckU408

Give me your home address and let me swing by and do a home invasion on your ass.

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Before this goes off the rails and becomes comedy, the whole point of this was to present a possible idea - don't tell me "well it won't work"; tell me why it won't work and propose something else. I don't care who comes up with the winning idea, its beneficial for all of us a community to just come up with SOMETHING, ANYTHING. My friends are getting scammed and it pisses me off, its that simple.

I don't think it will work because we had scamming way before we ever even had a ticker. They don't need ticker statuses to scam.

I understand your frustration, but ANY site online that has trading, has scamming. I don't have any ideas to help the situation.

It is great you are trying to come up with ideas.

i still dont know why i am on Lucky status for ticker. can someone please tell me?

OK, i can't account for cookies - seriously, that was a ballshock to all of us, and a rare case of a trusted person going off the rails.

But maybe if we got rid of the "lets give someone a second chance attitude", enforced existing rules here harsher (like the bubbling for stakes - seriously, you should lose bubble forever) and put in a system i proposed forever ago to zab (which is free) to ban proxies from creating accounts, things could change. These are all little things that could go a long way here.

I mean, we have a member here who's been scamming the members here for 2 years but is still allowed here and really has had no penalty - in the interest of fairness i won't mention who it is but it rhymes with darleyhexter. When people see a member getting away with theft and face no repercussion it sends a really bad example here. I don't understand why shit like this is even debated as being an issue.

i dont think the ticker idea will work....by itself. i've beaten this horse enough to get some animal cruelty charges but ill just say again then im /thread. Using limitations on all trade avenues as a whole (off site, market, loan shark, pm, bubble, etc) is the only way limiting the ticker will help, as a package with those. Will it stop all attempts to scam? no, obv. However your credit card shuts off when you arent paying it, they dont leave it as an open option, you can only get one advance payloan at a time, they dont let you continue if you arent paying up, etc. Now, skype, email, those you will not be able to stop, nor should we care to try, just warn people to not be stupid in those cases is the most we can do. But creating limited use member groups that you can throw those liimits on is the only way imo to really put a dent in this issue, outside of zero tolerance hammers

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Originally Posted by rivdee

and put in a system i proposed forever ago to zab (which is free) to ban proxies from creating accounts

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On this one, if its free it must not work, or else other sites would be using it as well. There must be a reason they aren't.

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Originally Posted by Poof

On this one, if its free it must not work, or else other sites would be using it as well. There must be a reason they aren't.

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There are tons of other sites that you use a program like this and it works - they just aren't poker sites. But anti proxy stuff is easy to buy or get freeware, and there are ways to program it to detect it also (all open source). Im pretty sure Dev knows all this shit too, its common knowledge if you've been programming a long time.

simply start by removing bubble on new accounts for at least 30-60 days period,most scamers steal using bubble,because its private.
Zab would love the idea of only membrs that earn a certain min of earned/bought points per week/month get to keep bubble status.

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Originally Posted by rivdee

There are tons of other sites that you use a program like this and it works - they just aren't poker sites. But anti proxy stuff is easy to buy or get freeware, and there are ways to program it to detect it also (all open source). Im pretty sure Dev knows all this shit too, its common knowledge if you've been programming a long time.

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I can confirm this and have used such back when I was "distributing software" back in my gray area days.

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