MALEK87 Wins B2B but is technically in Default.. You Decide

I am trying to be fair here on what you think should be done.

Long story short.. Malek87 (PO name: SA39A) won B2B tonight.
He won the first game and realized he had a chance to win B2B so repaid his loan before the 2nd game started. So yes, at the time he won the 2nd game, he was no longer in default.. However, when the promotion started (The 1st game), he was in default.

Here are the FACTS:

SA39A takes out a loan
1000 04-27-2012, 05:57 PM Loan Loan ID:3692 (105)

He now goes into default and is debt collected on several times
-3 05-04-2012, 04:49 AM Debt Collector Loan ID:3692 (106)
-4 05-19-2012, 10:31 AM Debt Collector Loan ID:3692 (106)
-74 05-27-2012, 11:11 PM Debt Collector Loan ID:3692 (106)

SA39A says he hasn't had a chance to repay his debt, hasn't been online
He has been online earning points on these days:
04-28-2012
04-29-2012
04-30-2012
05-01-2012
05-02-2012
05-03-2012
05-04-2012
05-05-2012
05-07-2012
05-19-2012
05-26-2012
05-27-2012
05-29-2012
05-30-2012
05-31-2012

4:00pm Est Tournament #1 Starts SA39A Wins
6:07pm Est he repays his loan
7:00pm Est Tournament #2 Starts SA39A Wins



**** Also **** Cookies says he owes him 12,000 points



What should I do? Likely I will settle his debts and lower the B2B prize pool accordingly

Give cookies his points back, take it out of b2b, and give him 0

Use the B2B to reapay everyone that is owed...


Just like you need in other cases...

Then start the b2b again at whatever is left after he repays...

Very simple and only one answer to fix this.

No payment whatsoever

SA39A
SA39A is online now
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Join Date
Jun 2011
Posts
23
Money Won
$236.75

loan

hi cookies , i know u dont want to talk to me , and am ashamed to , but i want to pat my loan ................. i have carbon $ if u want , just tell me how much is worth for them and ur id in carbon ( i can transfer ) sorry and ty

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This a PM that this guy sent to me 3 weeks ago. he could have sent me ne amount I would have been happy. instead no word no reply nothing. He's is a POS and needs to get nothing. He owe me 11k pts in market. And even after his debt is erase this guy should be permabanned.

simple like you said, if he didn't have a chance for B2B, then he wouldn't have thought about repaying his debt. So my opinion is he doesn't deserve it.

PAY YOUR DEBTS<<<<< Not when your looking good for a B2B win.

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Originally Posted by Mpettit2

Use the B2B to reapay everyone that is owed...


Just like you need in other cases...

Then start the b2b again at whatever is left after he repays...

Very simple and only one answer to fix this.

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There is more then one answer..............

Pay his debts.. Leave him with 0. rest goes back to prizepool

PAY Off his debts to every1 he owes and cookies too, AND DONT give him any, just another person tryin to get away with owing and not paying,, then wnts to win b2b. case closed i think...

Tried to Pay Ppl back. LMAO. I told him one day on the tables too, I HOPE he wins B2B so, he comes out just like this. LMAO

He should not win B2B because he was in default when the promotion started and he still owes cookies this should definitely not be paid out !!!

1) dont punish him for debts in past if all were paid prior to his run
2) the excuse about not being around is bull, was on to play so he could pay them
3) if he does owe cooks that, id say a no go.
basically... dont punish for the past, but if he does owe now then really i dont think he should get

According to the previous post : If you are In Default you will not win B2B. http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f11...hamp-4723.html

Dont set any kind of precedent where some guy in defualt can pick and choose when to repay so he can benefit from it.

IT is said noone in default can win any promotions. THe promotion he "won" was B2B which includes the 2 freerolls he won. For the 1st he was in defualt for the whole of it while being in default for a period of the 2nd freeroll.

I dont agree with him saying he had no time to repay loans, as he did have time to open up carbon and register for the tournament, so he could repay loan at that time, Or even at any time during the 1st freeroll such as breaks(not that would have made a difference to his eligibility for B2B). But the fact he only repaid it during the 2nd freeroll makes it pretty clear his intentions in repaying were solely incase he won B2B.

Regardless of Cookies 11K debt i think he shouldnt get B2B as he didnt meet the requirements to be eligible.

If Cookies 11K debt proves to be true then i think its an even easier decision.

Use B2B to repay everyone

Then whatever is left start the B2B over

You have to be consistent in this ZAB....

Just make this the rule:

1.) If your in default of owe anyone no winnings from b2b will be credited

2.) B2B winnings will be used to repay those and the rest will be put back into the prizepool and restart the promo



We shouldnt even be having to discuss this.... This is the way its been done before and the way it should be handled.

Just make this set in stone so we dont have to listen to everyone getting all worked up in chat for an hour over $100 or not getting a 2k loan.

Simple as that

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Originally Posted by RaiseWinPotFold

According to the previous post : If you are In Default you will not win B2B. http://www.pokerowned.com/forums/f11...hamp-4723.html

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Exactly, well said. Enforce the god damn rule Zab. Stop being a puss

Shouldn't they not be buying into tournaments if they owe others pts?

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Originally Posted by trubton444

Shouldn't they not be buying into tournaments if they owe others pts?

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if they have points and buy few coupons at a time,, instead of payin bck,, then thats how they get in tho.

IMO when that second game started if he wasnt paid of by then , then he wasnt eligible to begin with!!

Repaying his debts, not giving him any money or history of winnings b2b.

Adjusting the B2B prize pool now.

Locking this thread

everything said here i coincide with...he shouldn't be paid, pay back loans he owes, then rebuild.