Equation for Strength of Tournament discussion

[gefishy]

I was thinking it would be strength of the tournament (The field you are playing against) vs how you finish = your rating

So ya, we're on the same page.

And yes my Math is off.. lemme see

A quick idea for the formula would be:

Players * ITM% * Your Place = Your Strength (Lowest is better)

35 * 30 * 8 = 84 Strength Of Tournament

ITM% = 40% how would that change it

35 * 40 * 8 = 112 Strength of Tournament



I could do

Players in Tourneys + ITM % + Where you placed (Backwards) so if theres 30 people in, then 1st place = 30 pts, 2nd place = 29 pts etc

OK,

I think I may still be confused here. What exactly would that final Strength of Tournament number mean?

If I am reading it correctly, when you say "Strength of Tournament" you mean a number of points assigned to your finishing spot relative to the average quality-of-play of the rest of the field?

[Zab]

If you are saying that lower is better, this scenario doesn't work. If 40% are ITM the tournament should be stronger not weaker. You show a 40% ITM tournament with a 112 Strenght of Tournament and a 30% ITM with a 84 making that appear stronger. Maybe you meant to say that higher is better?

I was thinking it would be strength of the tournament (The field you are playing against) vs how you finish = your rating

So ya, we're on the same page.

And yes my Math is off.. lemme see

A quick idea for the formula would be:

Players * ITM% * Your Place = Your Strength (Lowest is better)

35 * 30 * 8 = 84 Strength Of Tournament

ITM% = 40% how would that change it

35 * 40 * 8 = 112 Strength of Tournament



I could do

Players in Tourneys + ITM % + Where you placed (Backwards) so if theres 30 people in, then 1st place = 30 pts, 2nd place = 29 pts etc

[Rcktwrangler]

Im thinking the formula would be something like:

For our stats:

- Get the AVG % of all the players ITM %
- Take the total # of players (Not just opted in, the total #)
- What place did you finish at

Lets assume the ITM % is 30% and there are 35 players and you got 8th place

A quick idea for the formula would be:

Players * ITM% * Your Place = Your Strength (Lowest is better)

35 * 30 * 8 = 84 Strength Of Tournament

ITM% = 40% how would that change it

35 * 40 * 8 = 112 Strength of Tournament

Let say theres only 30 players in and 30% ITM

30 * 30% * 8 = 72 Strength of Tournament


So ya, if you muck up and take 25th place.. lets see

30 * 30% * 25th = 225 Strength of Tournament

sounds good.

[gefishy]

As I said, the equation is simple, we just need a dollar value for the points that a person invests in the tournament.

If you had to guess, what is the conversion of 140 points to dollars? Looking at your redeem cost (580=$1 Carbon) that would make an opt-in cost about $.25.

So, the equation would probably be total winnings/(total opt-ins*.25)=ROI

I would probably suggest setting a minimum number of tournaments to qualify. Say 5/week or 20 tournaments to qualify for the monthly leaderboard?

[gefishy]

So, the equation would probably be total winnings/(total opt-ins*.25)=ROI

This equation would be for each user.

[JBrazon]

OMG my brain hurts after reading this.... lol

[gefishy]

OMG my brain hurts after reading this.... lol

I heart math. Maybe that shoulda been my major... Regardless, when this is figured out we should have a pretty freakin' solid ranking system. It's a pain now, but it will make for solid data later

[Zab]

ya I think that works.. Total players * ITM % avg * your place inverted

I'll setup a leaderboard all time ranking system + weekly contest (Min 7 tourneys to qualify)

[gefishy]

ya I think that works.. Total players * ITM % avg * your place inverted

I'll setup a leaderboard all time ranking system + weekly contest (Min 7 tourneys to qualify)

Pff, that wasn't so hard

I would suggest that we run a test with this first before rolling it out. Make sure the data works before losing too many points...

Maybe create a page for it like you would if it were live but don't let anybody access it yet. Let the numbers run for a week and then check it to see if it makes sense?

[bmeelneg]

... I'll setup a leaderboard all time ranking system + weekly contest (Min 7 tourneys to qualify)

I just kinda quick scanned this the first time thru ... too much math ... not that I suck at math.

Anyways, am I reading this right? 7 tourneys in one week to qualify. 7 tourneys * 145 point = 1015 points a week minimum.

Or are you saying 7 tourney for the all time board (not the weekly board)?

I crashed this party late lol... I have some other input if you want it