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    Need opinions here... Layin JJ pre...

    Cant find HH sorry guys but in a nutshell....

    8 left in $1.50 9max turbo sng... Blinds 50/100

    I open 3x bb from EP leaving me with 1300 behind. LP villain shoves for 1900. Fairly tight player from what Ive seen so I decided to lay it and pick another battle later...

    At the micro stakes is that a bad fold pre-flop? I think at best im flippin against overs which is a little early on for my taste.
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    for me its bad play that sng not mmt have many good cards you can get

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    well if hes shoving all his stack of 1900 and in late position... there really isnt anyone left to shove against ...which means he either wants the blinds to fold/making a squeeze play/maybe coinflip against you(the raiser)..another theory is that he could have been studyin everyones pattern and just waiting to make the right move. i think you really need to have a good judgement on this opponent and really get a feel or knowledge of what his shoving range is. i dont blame you for the fold, i think i might have also.

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    if its possible to knock you out. then I wouldn't of played it either if you weren't invested.y risk an over to hit and it happens often of even a bigger pair witch also happens often make a good raise see a flop.go from there and how they bet pre. no if there shorter than u by quite a bit that's a bit different I suppose even qq I will laydown preflop depending the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpulsive07 View Post
    Cant find HH sorry guys but in a nutshell....

    8 left in $1.50 9max turbo sng... Blinds 50/100

    I open 3x bb from EP leaving me with 1300 behind. LP villain shoves for 1900. Fairly tight player from what Ive seen so I decided to lay it and pick another battle later...

    At the micro stakes is that a bad fold pre-flop? I think at best im flippin against overs which is a little early on for my taste.
    Open folding JJ in this spot is bad.

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    The shove makes me think you're not crushed -- otherwise villain would call or maybe minraise and play for the trap.

    I'm thinking AK, AQ looking for the fold equity. I would've looked the villain up.

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    Hard to lay down, but I think it looks prettier preflop than it actually is in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordgort View Post
    The shove makes me think you're not crushed -- otherwise villain would call or maybe minraise and play for the trap.

    I'm thinking AK, AQ looking for the fold equity. I would've looked the villain up.
    But he said racing that early is not what he wants to do. I wouldnt risk it that early with JJ either, too much game left to go allin aginst AK or AQ there. I guess there are some that feel like its better to take that risk early rather then later tho..
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    From how he played it I would put him on an under pair, maybe AK or AQ, either way you would get your money in good.

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    i prob would have folded too...my stats with JJ has been 3-32 which are shoves or calling all ins. my bet they had any pocket pair most likely AK which you could have won but 9 times out of 10 at least with my luck an A or K would hit. i hate both JJ and QQ and will lay them down if it means knocking me out unless i'm under 10 BB in which i'll rely on luck.

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