I dont call it a bad beat.. I call it a fortunate donk call.

[studaddy420]

first free roll today i get the same KK..the board comes 4 8 J . i bet 200 he calls, turn 6..i bet 1000 he calls then the turn is 4....i shove all in he calls. he had 10 4.

[pokerponed]

first free roll today i get the same KK..the board comes 4 8 J . i bet 200 he calls, turn 6..i bet 1000 he calls then the turn is 4....i shove all in he calls. he had 10 4.

harsh! gg good luck next one

[wwwrungood]

This is pretty standard and you just unlucky. Unless the blinds were really small, you were pretty short on chips and the 55 has to make the call.

[WILD]

What were the blinds? Regardless, you just got unlucky.

[dustynuts3185]

OOPS!

Flop was 2 8 6

not 2 8 4.. My fault xD

Glad you re-posted cause I was confused.

[HopsBar28]

Wasn't it Phil Helmuth who said "If it weren't for luck, I'd win every hand"?

[PokeYourFace]

this thread needs up dating, villain did not have a str8 in the way u tell it. But i do like the whole "fortunate donk call" thing... im gonna start calling 15% or less hitting a "fortunate donk call" lol

[BradysDad]

I would be happy with that call all day, just win next time

[HoldemSally]

I hate getting KK or AA..etc in SB, BB, under the gun or any early position... especially early on in a tournament. In poker, position is like location is to real estate. That being said, since the Villian raised to 500.00 before you, it should have gave you some indication that the Villian wasn't planning on folding. Even though you had KK, since the Villian had already bet 500.00 I would have bet 500 and hoped to catch a king... then IF the Villian raised I prob. would have folded, thinking that the Villian had trips or AA. Theres always time to wait for a better chance to take down the pot as long as your still in the game. And personally, I wouldn't call it a bad beat... just a bad call on villians part. I save the term 'Bad Beat" for things like losing the pot with a 4 of a kind to a straight flush....but thats just the way I define a bad beat.

[TheBl4ckC4t]

OOPS!

Flop was 2 8 6

not 2 8 4.. My fault xD

this thread needs up dating, villain did not have a str8 in the way u tell it. But i do like the whole "fortunate donk call" thing... im gonna start calling 15% or less hitting a "fortunate donk call" lol

You gotta go back to page 1 to see where I made my error - I corrected it in a later post.

I would be happy with that call all day, just win next time

Oh I am happy with the call, but I plan on winning next time.. With calls like that, eventually they will pay out big, rather than lose me money lol.

I hate getting KK or AA..etc in SB, BB, under the gun or any early position... especially early on in a tournament. In poker, position is like location is to real estate. That being said, since the Villian raised to 500.00 before you, it should have gave you some indication that the Villian wasn't planning on folding. Even though you had KK, since the Villian had already bet 500.00 I would have bet 500 and hoped to catch a king... then IF the Villian raised I prob. would have folded, thinking that the Villian had trips or AA. Theres always time to wait for a better chance to take down the pot as long as your still in the game. And personally, I wouldn't call it a bad beat... just a bad call on villians part. I save the term 'Bad Beat" for things like losing the pot with a 4 of a kind to a straight flush....but thats just the way I define a bad beat.

I didn't define it as a bad beat as much as I did a fortunate donk call. While I am not happy with the outcome, I looked over the hand histories, and the guy was playing as loose as a well oiled piston. He just caught the miracle card is all. *shrugs*