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When is it acceptable to go all in on a straight draw? The odds for the turn and river combined on a gutshot is 16.47% and an open ended is 31.45%, 4 and 8 outs respectively. Would you call an all in for your respectably sized stack on a straight draw from the flop?
hard to say but as often as people do it you would think it comes everytime
only a true donk knows the way of the donk ways...
never call your tourny life without a made hand unless your severely short and it very late in the tournament, or its like a royal draw and you got two over plus the flush....
probably wouldnt make the call but may make the bet...lol
Maybe only if I where to have a flush draw as well are short stacked late, other then that folding like 85-90% of the time.
I wouldnt on a gut shot. But on a open end, it depends on stack size and what you think other person has. Maybe with an over and backdr flush draw.
Looks like the responders here have the right idea. I think it's absolutely moronic but I'm faced with the situation often and it seems like more often that not they make the straight.
Open ended with two overs to the board would be one of the only times its profitable.
Good post, two overs would double your outs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrs015
I hate it when people call me on a draw seems like they nail it everytime but depending on where im at in a tourney I might or if its a freeroll or not
or they bet it and u dont see the flush I dont like ti when it happens to me . lol
Very true. If you already have a comfortable stack, no sense in risking ur tournament life on a draw. But, if it's a straight flush draw, well, that's something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
on a "naked" straight draw ummmm usually not a good idea to call ai for your turney life... now if you have a combo draw(st+fl) or a draw plus overs when you put the guy on top pair then that becomes a different situation. but for just a 8 out draw with two to come its usually not a good idea
and forgot to add it also depends to how commited you are to the pot ie there was betting and raising then the guy ships on you you might have to call if off if+50% of your stack is already in there
It all depends on what the board is like. If it looks like a board no one has hit, then you can push on a draw. Also depends on your stack and how much is in the pot
Depends on the relative stacks, your read on the other player, and the amount of the bet relative to the pot size (e.g., if you're 32% to win, you need to be getting over 3:1 to call)
yup that's me, chicken never going to win the tournaments. got to push it baby.
I would not call all in for a draw unless I have more than 50% odds to win.
Really its a broad question. .. what stage of touney? I mean if u have 100bb and facing a 5bb shorty.. ya jam.. but for ex: in sngs.. sometimes jamming 10bb w 2overs and draw is deff the right move on bubble.. other times u shouldn't chase.. very stack size dependent
I think it depends on the situation. Im not calling off my stack on a draw most of the time unless its an unbelievable draw- like flush and open ended, then maybe- I will semi bluff with it and bet though sometimes
A royal draw is NEVER worth chasing for any bets, your playing for a 1 outer. IMO a str8 draw is never worth chasing for alot of chips. Only when you have a str8 and flush draw should you be willing to gamble a little lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JLynn171
this entirely depends on the situation, your stack, opponents stacks, how many in, blinds, effective BBs etcetc
i would call only if i have 2 over cards that is 6 more outs ,end den its just gamble
i wouldn't make that call with a gutshot, and i may not even make the call with an open ended. depends how much money is in the pot- my pot odds, how many players are left, how much chips i have relative to making the call and losing, the player im against, so many variables. having two overs to the board does add value. i.e. 2 9 10 rainbow flop and i have J Q i will probably be more inclined to make a call.
never call your tourny life without a made hand unless your severely short and it very late in the tournament, or its like a royal draw and you got two over
open ended with a flush draw and top pair, knowing people wont make this call, i think you can see it as an advantage to getting your opponent to fold as well.. as you become more experience you learn how to dodge on taking hits. and i think thats why alot of people would say fold because they wouldnt want to risk everything for a draw. which is the correct play, but if you really know your opponent and you know he doesnt really have much except middle or top pair medium kicker type hands, you can for sure fight back with almost anything , drawn or not. but you would have to trust your gut and know for a fact you are correct before you can pull this trigger. shoving is always an option given the right reason to do so.
it really depends on your pot odds, if theres 2k int the pot and he puts you all in for 1k, then youre getting 1 to 3 and you should call an open ended but fold a gutshot